"Hook 'em Up Loose" - 1986 F-150 Restoration/build

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Gary Lewis
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Good job on the repairs!  Hope they hold up.

I have a dash apart and should be able to confirm that there are nut clips on it.  And, I'm going to do some work after a while on the master parts catalog and will try to find the part numbers for them.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Danny G
Gary Lewis wrote
Good job on the repairs!  Hope they hold up.

I have a dash apart and should be able to confirm that there are nut clips on it.  And, I'm going to do some work after a while on the master parts catalog and will try to find the part numbers for them.

I hope they hold too, we shall see.

I appreciate you looking for those clips. If we can't find anything I may just mic the dash and see if I can find some generic u-clips to fit there. I have only found the clips for the bezel to dash face screws. If I didn't bag and tag it from the old dash, it means I probably broke them trying to get them off.
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Gary Lewis
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I'm assuming that your question is if there are sheet metal spring nuts on the dash pad where the instrument & radio bezels attach and where the pad attaches to the dash itself.  And the answer is yes.

Let's start here.  These are the fasteners for the dash pad.  The screw at the top, with the smaller head, goes in the defrost vent openings, while the one with the larger head holds the two bezels in as well as the dash pad to the instrument panel/dash on the right side.

Also note the two kinds of spring nuts.  Both take the same screw, the one with the larger head, which is probably a #8.  And both go into the dash pad.





The three driver's side spring nuts as well as two for the radio bezel are the smaller, traditional spring nut.  But the passenger's side takes three of the odd spring nut with the extra loop on the back, which I'm sure is to protect the wires that run back there.  Here's a shot of one of those with the screw in it to show how that piece protects the wires:



But, I don't have part numbers for either of those spring nuts.  I'd take them off the old pad.  And if one breaks then find some at the parts store that will fit.  My normal ones measure .530" wide, .815" long, and have a reach of .325" to the hole.  And a max material thickness of .140".
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Danny G
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Thinking I'm only going to find the smaller style clip. Should be able to get those at Ace
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Gary Lewis
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If you don't find the little ones let me know.  I may be able to find them on-line.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Danny G
I have a feeling that is gonna be a 3/8 of 5/16 on center. I'm checking clips and fasteners.com right now..if they don't have it it probably doesn't exist.
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Danny G
Found a couple possiblities

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Of course I don't think I will ever get the caged kind you have there. So need to find something that works in it's place. What are your dimensions on that one?







They have a lot more choices as well.

1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Danny G
This one almost looks like it could be the same as the caged one less the cage
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Gary Lewis
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You have a lot of good options there.  

I didn't measure the caged one, but other than the cage it is the same size.  So if you position the wires and their protection such that they won't be chafed by the sharp end of the screw you should be able to use the non-caged nut.  And maybe round the end of the screw a bit?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Danny G
So I stopped by ACE and Lowe's found these at Lowe's.



I have been racking my head on why I wouldn't pull these off.... As you can see I keep everything bagged and tagged.



So I got lucky I was going through a box cleaning off the truck toolbox and look what I found.





For comparison to the speed clips I found at Lowe's... Which had a surprising selection.




Gonna clean these guys up and give them a coat of Rust-Oleum.
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Gary Lewis
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Good find!  You are getting there.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Danny G
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What a PITA putting this replacement dash in has been.  The mounting locations are really thick I had to trim them in order to have a hope of getting the nut clips on. The drivers a pillar one keeps sliding on me so it pops the dash up a hair higher than I would like so I will have to work on that
The mounting points all seem to be reenforced with metal.

My bezel repairs held except for one. I will pull this all back apart later. For now it will sit as is.

I used China marker on the window to mark the locations of the vent nuts.

A little extra kill mat in the cab sealed in and screwed in the wire harness in the drivers rocker. Fay sealed and wet installed the hi beam light switch then laid in the carpet so it can start to realax into place. This color is desert tan by acc... Goes well with the saddle and black interior.











 




1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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FuzzFace2
Looks good want to come over and fix and install my dash?
No carpet at this time so should be easy
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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Sorry to see that the clips don't fit well.  Is there any chance they aren't thick enough?  You are using aftermarket clips, right?

But, it sure is looking good!
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Danny G
Stock clips aftermarket dash.
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Rembrant
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TheScatch wrote
That interior looks fantastic!
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Re: "Hook 'em Up Loose" - 1986 F-150 Restoration/build

Danny G
Ok I think I am ready to put the seat in the truck.  I'm excited because that means doors next and then I can hook up the fuel lines again and drive it around a bit. Letting it sit outside in the sun will also relax the last of the wrinkles out of the carpet.

The hole locations are semi molded into the back of the carpet. Used a soldering iron to cut them out. This melts the edge of the carpet to keep it together. Plunged it in for the threshold.
Installed a plastic bezel for the light switch... Completely upside down. I'll flip it at a later date, not going back out today.

I bought new seat belts from LMC. They are ok, they only have one bolt instead of two so when you go to torque them in, it tries to rotate. My issue with them is it has a twist built in (see pictures). The L bracket needs to be flipped 180 to get rid of this.

Put new door switches in, seem a little different. The passenger side had a plug and no switch, but had the harness so it got one too.






1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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FuzzFace2
Looks really good
Did that dimmer switch cover come with the carpet or ?
Don't think I have seen any like that most I seen is a ring you fit on the carpet after you cut out the hole.
It will be a bit before I can get a carpet and 1 reason why I went with the bed liner.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Gary Lewis
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Wow!  That is REALLY well done!  Don't think I'd have thought of using a soldering pen to cut out holes, but that certainly is a good way to go.  Thanks for the tip.

I'm jealous of all the progress you are making, but I'm learning while you do it, so I'll ride along vicariously and read.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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FuzzFace2
Gary Lewis wrote
Wow!  That is REALLY well done!  Don't think I'd have thought of using a soldering pen to cut out holes, but that certainly is a good way to go.  Thanks for the tip.

I'm jealous of all the progress you are making, but I'm learning while you do it, so I'll ride along vicariously and read.  
I heard of using a red hot nail to poke holes thru the carpet for the seat belt & seat bolts so it does not pull the rug apart.
I will have to buy a cheap iron that I can put a knife on to cut out a bigger area when needed.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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