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kramttocs

Re: Salan's 1980 Something

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Gary Lewis wrote

But I didn't know there were HD versions of the 1356, nor one with a PTO. Cool!

I didn't either - just that the 4spds could have them.
Good buy!

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio

ArdWrknTrk

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T-18's have a single PTO on the right.
T-19's have PTO's on both sides.
It's the quickest way to tell the difference.

The NP gear boxes have an aluminum lid.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

salans7

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Spent some time today scrubbing everything down. Also made a quick bar to see whether or not I could use my 80-81 shift lever. Short answer is yes, and it seems to work okay like this. But does anybody see a reason why this won't work? I'm mainly referring to the angle of the bar. I'll be making a new bar down the road once I install the drivetrain so that I can make sure the lever doesn't end up in the dash. Thoughts?

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Salan's 1980 Something

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Angles look good to me.

I've never had an early shifter, so I'm not sure how far forward they travel.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

salans7

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This one seems to move and feel identical to what my old NP208 running a stock lever assembly felt like, so I think it will probably be okay. After doing a little more searching I realized the 88+ style bar for the lever on a ZF/1356 is at a very similar angle so it should be okay.

Gary Lewis

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Yes, I think you'll be fine. But, you may have to lengthen the bar a bit to get the lever where you want it. You've seen my trick to make it adjustable, right?

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

salans7

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Gary Lewis wrote

Yes, I think you'll be fine. But, you may have to lengthen the bar a bit to get the lever where you want it. You've seen my trick to make it adjustable, right?

I actually thought of your setup as I was making this. Down the road I will probably do something similar.

salans7

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Found a little something at the junkyard. $40.

ArdWrknTrk

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Nice score Shaun!

Looks to be in great shape, at least the drivers side is not threadbare or greasy.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

grumpin

Re: Salan's 1980 Something

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Good deal at $40!

Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona

Gary Lewis

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Wow! I'm envious!

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

salans7

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Thanks guys! I'm definitely glad to have found one in good shape.

salans7

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Picked up another necessary part to my 460/T19 swap. Paid dearly, but it is what it is. These things aren't easy to find for $100 anymore. People know what they are and what they're worth.

Gary Lewis

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If you got it for $100 you did well. I just sold one for $200 + shipping.

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salans7

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Gary Lewis wrote

If you got it for $100 you did well. I just sold one for $200 + shipping.

I paid a little more than what you sold yours for. I was merely stating finding these for any less isn't easy anymore.

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Salan's 1980 Something

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And to think I let mine go for $50 when I installed my Zf..

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

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In reply to this post by salans7

Oh. Ok. Wish I'd thought about you before I sold it.

What else do you need?

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

salans7

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This post was updated on .

I was still not sure about the 460 when you pulled your T19, and I didn't even know I needed a bellhousing until I bought this transmission without the bellhousing. So no worries. Only two things I need for this transmission now are the clutch fork boot and the shift lever. The lever that came with the transmission is from a 1970's International Harvester Pickup T18 and not suitable for use in our trucks per my discussion with Jonathan.

Oh, and whatever bracket holds the slave to the bellhousing. E4TZ7A603B?

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Salan's 1980 Something

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I thought you were a big fan of early style shifters?

The straight stick is going to 'stick out' like a sore thumb.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

salans7

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I am, but the 80-81 shift levers used in the T18 have a different end length than an 83+ T19. Jonathan feels the same way I do about the early shift levers and has already tried it. My only option if I REALLY want the threaded knob is to cut the end off of my NP435 lever and weld it to an actual T-19 lever.

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