Gary Lewis

Bill - Is there another one in contention? Anyway, part of my recent purchase of documentation included a few issues of Ford's Service Life magazine which was for their technicians. I got one of them scanned and up on the website. See what you think: Literature/Miscellaneous Literature/Service Life. And check out the tip on Page 22. I have a few more of them and will eventually get them scanned and uploaded. But, I'd like your input as to the priority of doing so.

By the way, your Contents83-11thru25 has crashed my Foxit app twice, and once so hard that the laptop was frozen and had to be rebooted. The second time it just crashed the app. But, this was after doing an OCR and finding probably 30 questionable things on each of the 34 pages. So, I'm holding off on doing anything with that file at the moment. In fact, I'm holding off for a bit until I figure out the organization issue or we'll be knee deep in TSB's in the index. Given that, I'm thinking about nesting the TSB's by category.

Without any definition of scope, this could get messy, fast... It might be shorter to list things that CAN'T be swapped onto these trucks, but even that would be Library-of-Congress-size. I'd like to contribute, but without some limitations (or at least guidelines) on what you're looking for, I wouldn't know where to start. Just the things I've actually done to mine would be boringly-long; that says nothing of all the things I've done to others, or that I haven't YET done even though I know they can be done. - Modern EFI? Lots of incidental mods, and many choices during that process. - Putting captain's chairs into a bench truck? Some people say floor mods are required, though I disagree. - Factory rear disks? Welding is required, as are rims/tires and e-brake cable mods. - Ammeter to voltmeter? - What about other brands - Dodge 16" rims? Or is your intent to list only Ford parts that fit, or that can be modified to fit? What level of modification? What level of skill/tools/equipment/cost? I've thought about doing this for several years, but IDK enough about web page design to make it happen. I always end up imagining that it would have to begin with a "vehicle selection" menu (to choose YOUR truck) that would then go to a VERY complicated rotatable/zoomable/sectionable 3D model of the truck that a user could fly through to find the part/system of interest, and then explore a list of potential mods/replacements. The closest I've come to actually doing it is my SuperMotors registries - if you browse a photo album, and read the caption of a pic that relates to your project, many contain links to more pics &/or replacement PNs (usually linked to Amazon, just because the URLs are stable) &/or links to albums showing how to swap/modify the part/system. But it's not as inviting as the 3D idea (which will probably never happen). You have to really want to read & dig through the captions to find out IF your idea is mentioned in them. As to your first entry... This shows the difference: https://supermotors.net/getfile/687493/thumbnail/doorglasses.jpg But by simply removing this spacer from inside the back of the divider bar: https://supermotors.net/getfile/687492/thumbnail/doorwindowspacer.jpg ...the older glass WILL work with the newer vent window (with a little extra slop). https://supermotors.net/getfile/141231/thumbnail/l-door-to-dash.jpg Also; the way you define the year range could confuse some people. The '97 F150 isn't the same as the '96 F150 or the '97 F350. So the parts interchange is really only up to '96, but also includes '97 trucks heavier than 8500 lbs GVWR (old body). The way I write it is "...-96 (& '97 >8500GVWR)" so there's no confusion with the later body style. Well, I had a response all typed in and lost it. Don't ask how as I don't know. Anyway, here goes again. You asked good questions/had good points. And the definition or scope wasn't stated, at least not clearly. So, here's what I'm thinking: So, with that scope let's work through your examples, with my answers in bold, and see what we have: Modern EFI? Lots of incidental mods, and many choices during that process. If there is a true bolt-on/plug-in Ford-supplied EFI system then it would fit. However, I can't imagine that there is. Putting captain's chairs into a bench truck? Some people say floor mods are required, though I disagree. Floor mod's would disqualify it. But, you can bolt in the later platform/base w/o modification. And, most floor mods are unsafe. Factory rear disks? Welding is required, as are rims/tires and e-brake cable mods. Mod's, and especially welding, would disqualify it. But changing tires/wheels wouldn't. Ammeter to voltmeter? You and I both know this ain't happening w/o wiring mods. But, I wish that wasn't the case. What about other brands - Dodge 16" rims? Nope, Ford only. So, will that scope/definition work? Is it too restrictive?

Steve - I'm going to document what little I'm finding about indexing embedded documents here: TechTalks: The “Public on the web” setting makes the document completely public and available for indexing, which means it’ll appear in Google search and anyone with the document’s URL can access it. On the other hand, the “Specific people” setting will make the document available only to the people with whom you decide to share it. If an uninvited party discovers the document’s URL, they won’t be able to access it. The middle option, “Anyone with link,” won’t make the document indexable by search engines but people who have the link will be able to access it. Google Search Appliance: The GSA was a set of hardware and software that Google used to sell to an enterprise to allow indexing their site and serving up search results. And the documentation thereof says "To protect confidentiality at serving time, the search appliance determines whether the user performing the search is authorized to view each document before it displays results." While the GSA is no longer being sold, it is reasonable to expect that Google still uses that philosophy, meaning not presenting content in a search to someone that doesn't have the right to view it. And if the document is marked "Anyone with a link", since there's no way for Google to determine if you have the link then they aren't going to show it. Google Drive > Chapter 2: Sharing, Privacy, Printing & Publishing: Set a doc to public if you want to make it publicly available to anyone. Public docs may get indexed by search engines (like Google Web Search), can show up in search results, and anyone who finds the web address of the doc can access it. And my SEO book didn't have anything applicable. The bottom line is - I don't know. Yet. For sure. But, the implications are that unless a file is declared "public" it either won't be indexed or it won't be presented as results of a search. However, I keep checking to see if Google has found that one document and, if it does, then I'll reclassify the other Google docs that are embedded. And, I'll start moving the OneDrive docs to Google Drive.

By "Have" I just meant that I own the bulletin. In fact, I own bulletins from late '79 to that 83-11-A with but 3 exceptions. However, I started scanning on the '79 end and have only scanned the applicable articles from the first three bulletins. And, by "applicable articles" I mean those that apply to the F & U-Series trucks. I look in the index of that bulletin, note the ones that they say apply to the "Light Trucks", and then pull out and scan only those for the full-sized pickups and Broncos. And that would include all of them, whether they should have been fixed by now or not. Basically, I want to flesh-out the master index - some day. As for you uploading, the easiest for me would be for you to give me individual links. Otherwise I have to look in your folder to see if I already have it or not. And, I'm still researching the "public" vs "with a link" bit......... Thanks!

Today I added a page called Interchange. It was inspired by a post by Angelo Voltura on FaceBook explaining what window glass fits our trucks. But there's LOTS of space on that page for more interchange information, so let's use this thread to manage that page. Please add your knowledge here.

Ok, thanks for the class... Same class was used to get the first pics on this thread.

Have you already scanned any of them? I've picked a few TSBs out of a few of those books that interest me. These were scanned with the same settings, except 400dpi: https://drive.google.com/open?id=18eMI8GebF3VZQR0qDUWyksvAgIJt8JhO https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n73yT7JDE1ZyPAqBoCvjTCngl7u8fKN3 What OCR app do you use, and what PDF editor? I've noted which ones I have, but past 83-11A I don't have any. And I haven't scanned any of those as I started with the late '79 ones. As for your new files, I OCR'd them and found something like 3 questionable things in one and 11 in the other. So that was very easy to do. Bring them on! I'll try to get those, and any others you send, on the site in a bit. But, there needs to be some organization as things are getting really busy. So I need to think about that for a bit. As for my OCR and pdf editor, I use FoxIt PhantomPDF. It certainly isn't perfect, and crashes every once in a while. But it did better in sample OCR's that I did than did Adobe's pdf editor. And it is a lot less expensive.

Daniel - Bill not only knows how to spell carburetter, he is also very knowledgeable with them. In addition, he has a truck w/a 460, and it was originally plumbed as shown below. I've circled the two air cleaner diverter valves in red. You can follow the hoses back down to a tee, and from there to a fitting on the manifold called "MAN VAC".

I've re-OCR'd the file and my OCR app did find lots of things that hadn't been previously found. Here's a screen shot of some of what it found - I'd already processed several of them. You can see what it found by the red rectangles, each one being something it questioned. And the one filled in with green, "HEX", is the one it was questioning at the time. It asked if I wanted to accept what it thought it should be, or if I wanted to correct it, or if it wasn't even supposed to be text. It is tedious, but doable. And, I put the file up on the website here: TSB's/CALIBRATION: 4-53F-R00. Now to figure out about Google....

Daniel - Welcome! Glad you joined. Here we specialize in 1980 - 86 trucks. So our vacuum-routing diagrams won't be exactly the same as what you are seeing. However, the basics are the same, and I think these are they: Vacuum Advance: I can see multiple hoses in your pics associated with the vacuum advance unit on the distributor. If they are all connected properly it'll work fine, but it can also be simplified. Transmission: If you have an automatic transmission it will surely be the C6. And there will be a tube or hose going down to the right side of it. I suspect that's the red tube in the second picture, and it needs to go to manifold vacuum. And manifold vacuum is what the hose in the first picture is. So, those two could go together, although they appear to be of differing sizes. Check out where the red tube goes first. Vapor Recovery: As said in the email, there's a system to recover the vapor from the evaporating petrol. The tube running from the gas tank should go to one or two charcoal canisters sitting low on the right frame rail, probably below the battery. And there will be a few vacuum hoses associated with that, including one from the canister(s) through a valve to the intake manifold or carburetor. Does this help?

Interesting Q&A. When I first looked at the rear brake application info in the brakes page (Driveline/Brakes) I saw that it says Parts List No. 2 for all F150's, regardless of year. So that would seem to say they only had one size. But, if you scroll on down to Parts List No. 2 you find: So, it looks like the wheel cylinders got smaller a/o 10/83 rather than larger.

Seems like we are on the same page regarding publications. As for the logic, let me do more research today - while I watch parades and football games - and I'll get back on how I think it works. Hmmm, I wonder if my book on Search Engine Optimization has anything to say about it? On the file, it does work. It is remarkably crisp, and it is a very small size - 110kb. But, while it is searchable, not everything on it can be found. For example, I can find 8 instances of "set", including one in the upper left of the label itself. But I can't find E4AE or AGG, which are in the lower left of the label. And, while it finds "air" and "purge", it doesn't highlight them at the right place. Which leads me to tell you what very little know about pdf's like this one - there are at least two layers. One layer is what you see, which in this case is a picture of, among other things, words. And another layer includes the actual words - in their supposed position on the page. But, sometimes the OCR engine puts the word in the wrong position, like "air" and "purge". Or, it gives you the wrong word. Or, as in this case, it sometimes gives you no words. To find out what it did OCR you can try to select some words. For instance, try to select the whole of the label itself and you'll see that it doesn't highlight all of the words, so it skipped some. And then, highlight a word or two and copy it to the clipboard and then paste them somewhere. I did that to "E4AE 9C485" and found that it OCR'd them to "E4AA GgcG485", which explains why it couldn't find "E4AE". Anyway, I'll re-OCR that file and see if my program finds more words and/or corrects some of the errors. Perhaps we can do a two-step on them successfully.

Yes. No problem on mine. This is the '82 body tub/firewall with '84-91 clutch MC & '87-96 brake booster/MC. https://supermotors.net/getfile/537837/thumbnail/boostermc.jpg https://supermotors.net/getfile/144063/thumbnail/engine-bay.jpg Or connect it to the fluid level switch. https://supermotors.net/getfile/1101054/thumbnail/brakewarn92.jpg No, the RPV is for the rears. This is for a '93-96 Bronco, but the MC is the same as '87-92 Bronco & '87-96 F150: https://supermotors.net/getfile/255501/thumbnail/4wabscomponents.jpg You can see the front line passing straight through the hanger loop. IGNORE the rest of the diagram & its caption - you'll never encounter that system, and it'll only confuse you. I really like the idea of using the low brake fluid switch.

Vinny - When you get that popup simply click the Big Size radio button and click Insert Image again.

Mark/Dyn - Sure glad you made it home safely. Your guardian angel was working overtime. You are right, the folks on here are amazing! Lots of help. And as for my texts, you are welcome. Just wanted to make sure you were getting help in the heat of battle. (I won't text back right now as it is 5:30 AM there.)

Since I had the bottom of the hole blocked with the aluminum foil I was afraid that there would be a buildup of powder if I didn't plug the top. Conversely, I worried that if I punched through the aluminum foil I would provide a point of entry for the powder to the bottom of the plenum. Given all that, I plugged them.

Cory - Maybe I have the wrong one?

Mark - The black/orange wire is the fuselink to the main switch. You need it. I'm not sure you need to go find a fuselink to replace it with right now as it won't be an issue unless you have a short elsewhere.

Thanks. The more I think about it the more I realize it has to be one complete spreadsheet. I've already split some out, but they are easy enough to put back. Now if Google will just find that file.... Hope you find your books. But there's no huge hurry as this is going to be a long process. I would say you can ship them to me and I'll scan them, but you probably wouldn't like my process. The pages are perforated, so I remove the pages I want as that makes scanning them so much easier and cleaner. And, since they are punched for a 3-ring binder, I put them in a binder with the page back in the right spot. I'm sure some would think that heresy, but I'm not a collector of literature for literature's sake. If I can't share it what's the use?

Didn't get as much done today as I'd hoped, but what else is new? The part I'd forgotten was how many openings the lower plenum for an EFI'd 460 has. All of those openings need to be plugged or masked off to ensure powder doesn't go in there. Plus, I don't like to put powder on the gasket surfaces, or for that matter the underside for fear that the powder might let go for some reason and get into the oiling system - like the Nylon did about 1970 in GM's engines. So I mask off all gasket surfaces as well as the bottom. And, that's it for the day - one lower plenum masked off. In my defense, that's tedious work.

UPDATE: From what I can tell, the Google Drive is the only "cloud drive" that provides the option of "Anyone on the internet can find and view" a file. I've searched high and low on both OneDrive and Drop Box, and the best they provide is "Anyone with the link can view" the document. Apparently Google has decided that it is not worth their while to index a document that is only available via a link. At least that's what the precious little I've been able to find on the subject suggests. And, if that's true then none of our documents on the website will be found - with the exception of Section 2: Axles & Frames, Suspension & Steering in the 1983 Dealer Facts Book, which as of last night is now available to anyone on the internet. And, Google has been asked to index it. As for when it might be found, all I've read says it will take anywhere from 4 days to 4 weeks. As of this writing it hasn't yet been found, but I'll keep checking. Meanwhile I'm cleaning up the index spreadsheet, hoping to have it ready when/if Google finds Section 2. But, that brings me to another question for y'all: How to present the spreadsheet? By that I mean whether to provide it in one long spreadsheet, although divided into the previously-mentioned categories, or to break it up into smaller sheets by category and placing each of those on a tab. The advantage of breaking it up is that it will load faster since you are only looking at a single tab at a time. The disadvantage is that you can only find things on that tab. I lean to having one long spreadsheet since you can then search the whole thing in one go. But, what do you think?

Very nice! Hey, I found someone a blue flareside! Now, who was that who was looking for one? I just read that plea for help. Hmmmm...

Yes, timing is everything. But we may be on the cusp of Bullnose inflation.

I thought you liked red, mobile chicken coops.