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Got my work cut out for me tomorrow! I flushed the system a few days ago, now time for new hoses, tstat, and coolant. Wish I knew exactly how much water from the flush remains in the block.
 Me thinks this was the original bypass hose. Talk about swollen, and my first time having the privilege of dealing with this clamp type.  Thought I had everything on hand and then I realized I don't have a gasket for the thermostat housing so I'll have to run out in the morning for a $3 part. 🤦🏻♂️ Thankfully I'm not far from parts stores and I have a different vehicle to get there in. Replacement starter should go on tomorrow too hopefully.
Ole Blue -- 1970 F100 Custom, 240 and a C4 automatic
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That looks like a good day's work.
 As for how much water is left, I always play it safe and assume more water than is usually in there. Since they hold about 16 quarts, meaning 4 gallons, I assume there's a gallon left in the engine. But that usually gives me a rich mix of coolant, meaning more than 50% coolant, so I can add water instead of coolant as the air comes out. Good luck! 
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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Boy that thermostat housing is fun to mess with!
 I had leaks there after getting things back together. Finally looked up the torque specs on those two bolts (12-15 apparently) and torqued them to exactly 15. No more leaks. Yay!
Ended up reusing that weird OEM Ford clamp for the bypass hose where it attaches to the tstat housing as there's no room for a regular hose clamp.
Accidentally figured out that my shop vacs little hose fits great in the opening once the tstat housing is off. Sucked out at least a half gallon of water that way while I was just trying to clean out some debris that got in there when I was scraping off remains of the old gasket.
Got done with this and came in and baked a home made pizza.
Quite tasty!
Once I ate too much, the engine had cooled, and the exhaust wasn't 400 degrees, I pulled the starter. Then I learned that my $52 Amazon special was wrong. No where near right. Not even the right bolt pattern.  Back it goes.
Weird thing is, the pictures on the Amazon listing look just like the starter I need.
Two steps forward, one step back. As always!
Ole Blue -- 1970 F100 Custom, 240 and a C4 automatic
Larry the Lariat -- 1986 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4, 351w and a C6 automatic |
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That pizza sure does look good!
 Glad you got the leaks fixed. I've found that many thermostat housings are warped and I flatten them with a file before installing them. That seems to help seal things up. As for the starter, the pictures on Amazon are frequently incorrect. As is that starter!
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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Got a remanufactured starter from O’Reilly with lifetime warranty installed this evening. Let it get good and hot and then shut it off. It starts right back up no problem now!
 Not sure why I had convinced myself it wasn’t the starter and started chasing the charging system. Good news is I’ve got all I need to do a 3g upgrade. Maybe at some point I’ll get these gauges working. 😃 Engine had been running 20 minutes or more when I took that pic. No way the engine was cold!  I’m thinking I may need a pigtail for the harness at the sending unit. I recall that connection didn’t seem like it was very tight. If that’s not it, is it possible i just need to run a ground somewhere on the fuel tank?
Ole Blue -- 1970 F100 Custom, 240 and a C4 automatic
Larry the Lariat -- 1986 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4, 351w and a C6 automatic |
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Fuel tank senders ground back to the dashboard behind the radio (I believe)
Let me check the EVTM.... Edit: yup! G701 is behind the instrument panel at the right of the radio. 
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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That IS good news!
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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Ahh…somewhere behind this mess you mean?  If so, that might explain it. I need to clean this up and remove a lot of spliced in wiring.  Thanks for the advice as always!
Ole Blue -- 1970 F100 Custom, 240 and a C4 automatic
Larry the Lariat -- 1986 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4, 351w and a C6 automatic |
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Good thought! I added a couple saved searches (one with just EVTM as an acronym and one with the words spelled out). Looks like you can get a CD version but like you said a hard copy is so much more useful. I found this at the right side of the hole for the radio after removing all that sliced in radio harness junk. I’m guessing this is G701. 
Ole Blue -- 1970 F100 Custom, 240 and a C4 automatic
Larry the Lariat -- 1986 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4, 351w and a C6 automatic |
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No, the Grounds page of the 1985 EVTM shows "Behind I/P (instrument panel) near RH side of radio". Then it gives a list of illustration and page numbers where you can see it depicted.
Long and short - it is on the firewall, not the instrument panel. 
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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I have to assume Gary is correct, that G701 is on the firewall, and I just tested for continuity between the dash frame screw and my gas tank harness plug.
 I'm without an optical drive for many years, but I do have manuals on CD. I find the book gets greasy fingerprints but the battery never goes dead and I can read it while standing on my head under the dash. Plus... the screen doesn't scratch or shatter You've got this one on the ropes! I'm sure you will have your bad ground or open circuit solved quickly. 
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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Very true, Jim. But I recently answered questions by using the EVTM on this site while I was in Switzerland. Didn't know which of the three to pack, so I didn't.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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I'm sure you have these OCR'd and saved to your device.
 I use the ones here on site to answer questions posed by members but I use my paper copy almost exclusively when working on my own truck.
Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake. Too much other stuff to mention. |
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Took Larry to the store to do some “real work” this evening.
Had to pick up an early Black Friday deal for our church (I’m going to pick up one more of these…Walmart only allows one of these per order.). These will be wall mounted for PowerPoint in our very small auditorium. 
Ole Blue -- 1970 F100 Custom, 240 and a C4 automatic
Larry the Lariat -- 1986 F150 XLT Lariat 4x4, 351w and a C6 automatic |
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