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Gary Lewis

Re: Project Ferdinand

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That's a really good look! I'm not sure I'd go white with the wheels as I'm liking them the way the are.

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

glad you like them ...i'm on the fence could go either way...it is his truck, and he likes them but also liked the white.....he told me last night that wheel color is least of the problems right now and he is focusing on what to do about carb and bed next.....

body shop deal this week is timing and cost.....my buddy is doing it for "free"

"free" as in i had a bunch of 3rd gen dodge parts Seth needed so we traded...worked out for every body, and i mad space in my barn for more stuff..lol

win win win

still not sure what direction to steer boy with carb....

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Project Ferdinand

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What's the plan for that engine?
I thought you were going to swap the 300 in?

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

Re: Project Ferdinand

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In reply to this post by nlongo33

Yes, that is a win for everyone.

On the carb, what are the plans for the truck's usage? And are we still talking about the 255 or the 300?

If the 255, my thinking is that a Holley or similar carb is great for going fast, but an Edelbrock is better for daily driving. I know that's not a popular position, but it reflects my experience.

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ArdWrknTrk

Re: Project Ferdinand

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I imagine the 255 is going to need all the help it can get to turn those bigger meats.
If I think of the difference between a 302 and 351... then think about cutting that much off again, and increasing the tires leverage and mass....

While maybe good for a new driver it does beg the question.
But as a Miata owner, Gary, you know it's a lot more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

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on carb front...

Motor: 255 v8

Intended Usage: safe and reliable daily driver (hopefully he passes road test February 22 lol)
* do not want to spend a lot of money on this motor, it will be swapped out for the 300 I-6 we already have or if the right 302 shows up....most likely early fall or winter of 2021 *

Does not need to go fast or even performance...reliable is key at this point in time

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

In reply to this post by ArdWrknTrk

new driver...... no hot rod i have enough go fast stuff for him to get in trouble with....haven't checked gear ratio yet but it turns the 35s pretty well....

I am way ok as a dad that this truck is a dog for the time being

any way to post videos? without youtube or other outside link?

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Project Ferdinand

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Unfortunately, there's nothing in the software to upload video to the forum.

Gary did an experiment linking video from his cloud (OneDrive I believe) and it took a couple of clicks to get it to play.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Project Ferdinand

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In reply to this post by nlongo33

How about one of the Chinese 2150 knockoff's?
They're all over for well under $100, in a few venturi sizes.

There was some discussion about these but I lost interest when Rick started touting expensive rebuilt Autolite 2100's

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

yup the Chinese carbs are a top option at the moment but i am open to suggestion

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Project Ferdinand

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What's on there now, and what's wrong with it?

I can't think of a more basic and reliable V-8 carb than the 2100/2150.

Edit: http://www.garysgaragemahal.com/motorcraft-2150.html

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

that vv carb everybody hates....i think the accelerator pump is bad (again talking to my more knowledgeable friends)...i know nothing when it comes to carbs other than that it meters air and fuel....lol

step on the gas pedal she boggs and wants to stall, lift a bit shes good and ease back into it and all is right in the world as you row through the gears..

also if truck sits for a few days need to prime the carb with a little fuel to get her started...

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

Gary Lewis

Re: Project Ferdinand

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That being the case I'd go with a Motorcraft 2100 or 2150. They should be a direct bolt-on.

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ArdWrknTrk

Re: Project Ferdinand

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The 2100 was Autolite Gary.
The Motorcraft 2150 has the same annular boosters but (I think) emulsion tubes.

*all I really know is that it has some metering advantage.

The 1.06" venturi is going to be fine with that displacement.
It should be about 300 CFM.

Bill could probably offer the best advice

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

so to be clear since i am a misguided chevy/dodge guy lol.....chinese 2150 knock off is way to go?

thanks for all the advice

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

Gary Lewis

Re: Project Ferdinand

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I don't know if anyone here has tried the Chinese 2150, but the Chinese YF's work fine. So I'd try one of their 2150's.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

sweet, i will make sure boy orders that this week so when truck gets back we can do that and cross one more thing off the check list

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Project Ferdinand

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No personal experience with this one.
I will say these import carbs need to be flushed of packing oil if that's what the Chinglish instructions say to do.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/maintenance-and-tech/buying-cheap-a-carb-from-amazon/

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

Re: Project Ferdinand

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Just don't use carb or brake cleaner to flush it out unless you take it apart. As Jim knows, there are parts in there that don't like the cleaner fluids.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

nlongo33

Re: Project Ferdinand

Carb ordered thanks for the advice

From high to low, from fast to slow

1981 F-100
1987 k5 blazer
1987 3+3 Crew Cab
1968 Galaxy Wagon
1967 Mustang
1925 Model T Sedan
2007 Dodge Megacab

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