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Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

In this image, you can see the bolts that hold the center section to the frame brackets. Three bolts per side. Unbolt, flip, reinstall, and the reciever would sit higher.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

FuzzFace2

Re: Little Blue 82

OK now I see what you are talking about of that center section.

Dave ----

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81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
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81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
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Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

I woke up this morning thinking about the carb, intake and exhaust.

I think the plan will be to stick with the original manifolds for now. Clean them up. Ill see if this carb can work without the egr installed, and cali junk. If so, I will run it for awhile, so long as it runs good. Will remove the cat, so it doesnt get plugged up.

That plan would save $1000 for the time being. The HEI should get it running well, so long as I have all other things in ship shape.

Then I can rely on it while fixing up dads truck, and getting the Impala back togather too.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

FuzzFace2

Re: Little Blue 82

Sounds like a cheaper plan.
The real reason I went with the EFI manifolds is my motor cam from something unknown. In order to hook up the exh. I wanted to replace the head pipe and got one for my 81 300 six, yep did not fix.
I was lucky a member on another forum had the EFI manifolds and I had a radiator he needed for his project so we did a swap.

The only way to get the Y pipe now days is with the cat, that is how I had to look it up as there was no listing for the EFI Y pipe other wise.
Using the almost new exh system from my parts truck I was short about 1' from Y pipe (no cat) to the factory mid pipe. A trip to the parts store got the Y pipe and rest of the system hooked up.
You can hardly hear the truck running with the stock exh system but I could not bring my self to not use the parts truck system when you have little money for the project.

What is nice is I can get any part for this truck at any parts store as it is all factory parts just need to know the year, EFI Y pipe and the AC when I get it put together.
Dave ----

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

I'll probably change my mind 20 times on this engine...so, yall just get used to rollin your eyes.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

Re: Little Blue 82

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

Okay...so this is what I got done tonight.
Removed radiator and hoses.

Removed fan.

Removed heater hoses and broke the heater core. The nipple for the hose cam right out of the core as I tried pulling the hose off....

Removed valve cover.

Removed distributor.

Set #1 cylinder to TDC.

Removed california high altitude emissions garbage, wire harness, vac lines, egr, computer etc.

Removed alternator.

Removed power steering pump.

Next up is cleaning/degreasing and waiting on parts to arrive.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

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I have a couple questions. There is a 4 port vacuum valve on the thermostat housing going to the heater core circuit. Im assuming this is a heater contorl valve. Or was this some some of contraption related to the emissions system?

You can see it in this photo.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

And an intake question. There are two bolts near the carb mounting flange oriented in the vertical position. Do these two bolts tie the exhaust manifold to the intake manifold?

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

Sorry for another question, ut was thinking of getting a new one barrel carter carb....

Which manufacturer or rebuild house sells the best carb? So many remans and new ones too!

Also, I found an illustration of the intake assembly. Looks like it shows one of those two bolts I asked about above. Also shows a carb spacer, which I dont have. The egr valve was sitting there. Guess I need to find one of those now too.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

Re: Little Blue 82

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The vacuum tree at/on the thermostat housing is mainly there for emissions, not heater control, and I believe it can be eliminated. It can on the V8's, and I'm pretty sure it can on the six.

The two bolts are probably the ones that tie the intake to the exhaust?

On the carb, David bought a carb, if I remember correctly, from a rebuild house and has been happy with it. I'll see what I can find in his report on MPG.

And the spacer is necessary if not running EGR. Or, modify the EGR plate. Jonathan and David know about those things. Let's see if they chime in before I find it via searching.

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Rembrant

Re: Little Blue 82

Gary Lewis wrote

On the carb, David bought a carb, if I remember correctly, from a rebuild house and has been happy with it. I'll see what I can find in his report on MPG.

I just read through that thread yesterday and I believe it was a 1970 F350 carb?

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Gary Lewis

Re: Little Blue 82

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Right. Still need to find where he got it.......

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Gary Lewis

Re: Little Blue 82

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The thread on FTE doesn't say where he got it, just that it is a Carter YF 4901 S carburetor [from 1970 F350 with 300 engine]; choke converted to manual.

Perhaps David will be on in a bit and tell us where he got it.

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Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

Thanks guys. I will start browsing.

I had an idea.....

What if you took three 1 barrel carbs, three stock intakes, and took the center section of the intake out and used it in three places? So, 1 barrel feeds 2 cylinders. Cap/weld the intake runners after cutting. Basically a three piece intake manifold.

Would that overfeed the engine? Reduce torque? Slow velocity? Hmmmmm..........

If I am going to spend all that money on a Offenhauser, or a Clifford setup with two barrel carb and headers, or two two barrel carbs etc....why not attempt a custom three piece intake setup?

Bigger cam, and exhaust upgrades would obviously be needed, but I am thinking out loud.

....continue rolling your eyes in 3...2...1....

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

Oh, and why not a wooden carb spacer? I have ash, pine, cedar, locust and red oak sitting here.....

Locust would probably be the toughest, and take more abuse than all the others.

How tall should that spacer be? 1"?

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

Re: Little Blue 82

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Grafting several intakes together has been done, but there's no reason to cap between them. Connecting them gives more balance to the air/fuel ratio than keeping them separate would do. And, it lets the heat from the center one get to the other intakes for fuel atomization.

As for the wooden box, you'd also need a metal plate to protect where the exhaust gases would hit the wood. But, otherwise it might work and provide heat isolation for the carb. As for height, you want it to be close to stock so the throttle cable, air cleaner, etc fit.

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1986F150Six

Re: Little Blue 82

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In reply to this post by Gary Lewis

Gary Lewis wrote

The thread on FTE doesn't say where he got it, just that it is a Carter YF 4901 S carburetor [from 1970 F350 with 300 engine]; choke converted to manual.

Perhaps David will be on in a bit and tell us where he got it.

It was purchased from RockAuto. It was manufactured by Autoline in Canada.

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

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Gary Lewis wrote

The thread on FTE doesn't say where he got it, just that it is a Carter YF 4901 S carburetor [from 1970 F350 with 300 engine]; choke converted to manual.

Perhaps David will be on in a bit and tell us where he got it.

RockAuto has those. They look very similar to the factory 1 barrel I have. A few small differences. Mine has a solenoid that opens and closes to a line that ran to the charcoal canister. I am assuming that was a Californication special carb.

These are "Autoline" remans. I've never heard of Autoline. Not sure if that is a good or bad brand.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Ray Cecil

Re: Little Blue 82

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David...haha We were typing at the same time.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

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