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Little Blue 82

Ray Cecil
Good news. Just got word the seller of that blue 82 flareside has accepted my offer.

Since Gary has Big Blue, I thought Id build Little Blue 82. Corey and I will have much to talj about over the next couple years as Little Blue 82 gets remade. Im excited.

Now....all stock? I have a 4.8 Liter LS motor sitting here ready for a swap and turbo! Nah, I will keep it stock for now. I am excited to play with a straight six for awhile.

Little Levi will be happy once I tell him we are bringing it home. I have a feeling he will be involved in this project ALOT.

Wish me luck with the retrieval from Georgetown Indiana. Its just across the river.

Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Rembrant
Congrats. Very nice.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/GT40 heads, BBK headers, Holley 4bbl, Comp Cam, M5R2 5spd swap, Magnaflow full duals. Blotchy paint, original bare bones stripper.
2013 Volkswagen Golf TDI My new fuel sippin' mile-eater for work.
2015 Lexus IS250 AWD F-Sport Mrs. Rembrant's ride. Far too fancy for me. All I do is wash it for her.
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Gary Lewis
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Congrat's!  You are going to have fun.  And working with Levi will be a treat.  
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in bac, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Ford F834
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Congrats on the truck! It will be a wonderful project. I look forward to the progress (and twisting your arm to keep at least a ford engine in it ha ha).

SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 SRW under construction-- 7.3 IDIT R&D 64mm intercooled turbo 150cc IP stage 1 cam main girdle 13" Southbend clutch ZF-5 + GearVendors overdrive 4.10 axle gears hydroboost brakes

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4 conversion-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering
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Gary Lewis
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I'm a pro at eye drops as I'm currently doing 8/day for Janey.  And I'd gladly do yours, Ray, as long as they come from that little island in the Gulf.  
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in bac, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Ray Cecil
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I figured mentioning a chevy in a ford would get a few feathers riled up. Hahaha...and Jonathan, Thanks for the eye drop tip, I will try that on my wife next time she asks me to get an eyelash out.

Dont worry guys, it will stay ford.

Im a bit worried though. After he contacted me about the truck through text, I accepted and made plans, through text. Havent heard from him since. Im sure he just got wrapped up with kids or family stuff, but it makes you wonder.

Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Ray Cecil
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Well, I just heard from him. Ha. He texted me just a minute after the last post here about wondering why he hadnt responded. Its all good. Set to pickup tomorrow.

Levi was excited when I told him. He has already claimed it as his.

Now little Ray wants my dads truck. Guess I will be left driving the Impala. Better put the LS motor in it!

Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Gary Lewis
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Excellent!
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in bac, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Ray Cecil
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Gary, how do I add posts to a thread without hitting "reply" on a previous message. There must be a way....but it must be a secret....because I see no way of doing it.
Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Gary Lewis
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I don't know. I just hit reply. But that post then says it is "In reply to this post", and I see other people's posts that don't say that.
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in bac, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Ray Cecil
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Immediate plans for Little Blue 82:

Order a radiator:
or should I have the original rebuilt?

Front leveling springs:
is there enough adjustment in the eccentric busting to correct chamber after the front leveling springs are intalled?

Shifter rebuild:
Its looser than some explicit comments I wont say on Garys website. Whats it take to bring the shifter back to feeling factory again?

Drive it a little and see what it needs mechanically right away. Those are the top three immediate needs. I am sure the list will grow as I get to know Little Blue 82.
Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Rembrant
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Ray Cecil wrote
Gary, how do I add posts to a thread without hitting "reply" on a previous message. There must be a way....but it must be a secret....because I see no way of doing it.
I don't know how to do that either;). I'll usually either reply to the original post, or if it's an ongoing one I'll often reply to one of my own so it doesn't look like I'm replying to another poster I'm actually not replying to...lol.

By the way...either every member of this forum had insomnia last night or there was a bug in the system that showed everybody as being online and active...
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/GT40 heads, BBK headers, Holley 4bbl, Comp Cam, M5R2 5spd swap, Magnaflow full duals. Blotchy paint, original bare bones stripper.
2013 Volkswagen Golf TDI My new fuel sippin' mile-eater for work.
2015 Lexus IS250 AWD F-Sport Mrs. Rembrant's ride. Far too fancy for me. All I do is wash it for her.
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Ray Cecil
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Gary Lewis wrote
I don't know.  I just hit reply.  But that post then says it is "In reply to <u>this</u> post", and I see other people's posts that don't say that.  
Ok. I do the same thing. I guess "in reply to" only shows up on each users side. I dont see anyone elses "in reply to" either. Oh well.
Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Ray Cecil
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Cory, this nabble thread forum platform certainly has a few bugs. But it isnt bad. Gary, is there a way for users to contribute financially to help it keep going. I will throw a bone in.
Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Gary Lewis
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Ray - Thanks, but it currently isn't costing enough to warrant taking up a collection.  They've hinted a couple of times that they might have to go to adverts, and at that point I'll spring for whatever it costs, within reason, to keep them off the site.

So thanks, but not at the moment.
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in bac, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Ray Cecil
Ok Gary.

So....onto little blue.

Most pressing issues will be radiator and shifter.

I am assuming new radiators are available.

What I need help with is understanding the shifter and what to do to make it like new again. Is it just rods/linkages with bushings? Is it a matter of replacing bushings, or do I need to get inside the trans?

Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Gary Lewis
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Yes, new radiators are available. I prefer to go that way and get an all-aluminum one. That means no plastic tank top or bottom.

Aluminum conducts better than brass and copper, so does a better job of cooling. And it is significantly lighter.

As for the tranny, I don’t remember what one is in the truck. Maybe you can update your signature?
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in bac, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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Ray Cecil
I will do that. I am not 100% sure yet what trans is in it, but sounds like a 4 speed Clark OD...according to your transmission code chart here on the site.

I did decode some of the tags. I know it should have 3.50 gears. Clark 4 Speed OD. And it was manufactured in San Jose California.

I will do a detailed write up this weekend after inspection.
Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Ray Cecil
A good friend of mine is giving me an 89 Bronco 302 4x4. It was his mud toy. It has been rolled a few times. Ain't pretty. But has some good parts. Frame is toast, its welded to the body. But, it has 32" tires and decent wheels, as well as a brand new radiator. So, we will be going to get that soon, and I will strip it down and use what I can for spare parts for Little Blue 82. I want to take the 302 and built an engine test stand to mount it to. Not sure what trans is in it, its Auto. So I am guess E4OD or C6. I am not sure what other autos there are from Ford, for 1989.

I won't be putting an Auto in Little Blue, and for the time being, the 300 six will remain. Maybe the 302 will be an upgrade later? I don't know yet, but we will see. I need to get Little Blue 82 home first.

Ray Cecil
1982 Flareside 300 Six, Hedman Headers, 4x4, SROD 4 Speed, 1 Wire HEI "Little Blue 82"....
1969 Impala Custom Coupe, 86,000 miles, 327, Powerglide.
1999 Silverado, 346,000 miles, 5.3 Automatic Z71 4WD
2008 Tahoe (wife's)

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Gary Lewis
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As a CA truck it will have come with a pretty significant emissions system.  It should have EEC-III, with the computer under the driver's seat, and the brown-grommet DS-II box - or maybe even the one with a red grommet, which is rare.  With that system it is a all or nothing.  Either all of the system is there and works, or it gets its knickers in a twist and puts the timing in limp-home mode.

On the '89 Bronco, there's a minor problem with the radiator.  The core/radiator support changed in '85, so the '89 radiator won't fit in the '82 support w/o minor modification of the support.  But the mod's are described on the 85+ Radiator In Earlier Support tab here: Cooling System/Radiator Support.

As for the transmission, the Applications tab here (Driveline/Transmissions/Automatic Transmission/Automatic Transmission Applications) says that it will be a C6.  The E4OD came out in '89 but only on F250's and 350's, and then only with the engines bigger than a 302.

And if you consider "upgrading" to the 302, be sure you keep the perches off the '89.  But, in my estimation the 302 isn't much of an upgrade vs the 300.  You've dropped from a 4" stroke to a 3" stroke, which also drops the torque.  However, you could put a stroker kit in the 302 and, for a lot of money, almost have a 351.  So why not start with a 351?  It doesn't cost any more to build a 351 than a 302 and you get a 1/2" stroker kit right out of the box.

But, why not build up the 300?  Go with split exhausts and true duals.  An aftermarket intake and two carbs.  Be different!
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in bac, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI
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