Gary Lewis

Beautiful! And I'm sure it MOVES! How 'bout some pics of the engine, etc?

Dan - Welcome! You fit right in having both a Bullnose as well as a hot-rodding mindset. But, tell us about the DIY controller. I'm curious what that is and how well it works. Oh, and on the pictures, I think if you respond via email to my post you'll be able to post larger pictures. But, that means you have to subscribe to this thread to get email notifications.

Exactly. And I don't know what pistons I have.

So, the Mustang EEC-IV's are SEFI? And could be re-sequenced for the 460. That's a possibility. That way I wouldn't have to find another harness, and could just move everything over from the '90. But, what are your thoughts about EFI heads on the block/piston combo I already have? Can I use my short block with the stuff from the '90? Meaning heads, intake, exhaust, dizzy, harness, etc.

Can IV's be changed to sequential, or just V's? I'm not really sure I want to do the conversion to EFI on Big Blue, but doubt it would be worth it to convert to bank-fire. The truck runs so well on the Edelbrock that there's no compelling reason to change that I can think of.

Wired up the brake controller on Big Blue today - right the second time. Who would have thought that white is ground and black is power? Boy, those Tekonsha controllers sure are tough. Not only did I have trouble with the power wires, it took a bit to get the brake light circuit to work. I'd positioned the controller under the cruise controller so I could tie into the brake light circuit easily, but it didn't work initially. Turns out that the clutch switch wasn't closing properly. (Yes, there's a clutch switch but it is only for the cruise, not the starter. ) Anyway, with the brake controller wired up I checked tire pressures, topped up the oil, and filled it up with gas so it is ready to go get the '90 tomorrow.

No wonder I couldn't find the spring in the catalog - it is a "check". But, it was only used through early-production 1985 trucks? Apparently that was when the change happened? Here's the hinge from Big Blue, who was made in May of '85.

That link actually goes to Parkland Performance Machine. And you are right, the site is hard to use. There’s no search function, so no way to find anything but poke around. But then I run into the paid section pretty quickly, and not knowing if it actually has what I’m looking for I’m not going there. I’ll continue to research the question of EFI heads on a block/piston combo for a carb, but so far what I’m seeing is that it’ll work. I could use the complete harness/intake/exhaust from the ‘90, including the EEV-IV computer on a Big Blue. However, the computer is for an E4OD so that would have to be turned off for the ZF5. But, if I buy into Core Tuning that should be fairly easy - I assume. However, if I’m in that far I might change it to SEFI. Can anyone spell SCOPE CREEP???

Jim - I’m getting lost. First, I tried to find Scott’s site and found http://reincarnation-automotive.com/products. Is that it? If so, I can’t find the info you referenced about heads. Do you have a link? Second, are you saying the early EFI heads, like those on the ‘90 which are probably E7’s, will work on Big Blue? Sorry if I’m dense.

Don’t forget Bill’s usual statement - Another clueless eBay seller. 😉

Just looked up what you said earlier - early EFI engines had heads with larger combustion chambers, so the ‘90 heads on Big Blue’s block would kill compression. And because of the different valve geometry there are valve cutouts in the pistons, so I’d probably have interference. Looks like EFI’ing Big Blue wouldn’t be easy. 🙈

Bill - I was afraid that I’d need to reflash the computer to tune things, but needed to ask the question. So, I’ll plan on buying into Core Tuning. And, maybe I can get Ben to come up to next year’s show. Was just email chatting with Dan Lee, who has joined the forum and will soon chime in, and the crazy thought of EFI’ing Big Blue came to mind. After all, I’ll have the ‘90 as well as all the parts Jim is sending to me. But, if I remember correctly, the EFI heads are different so the EFI intake probably won’t bolt to the carb heads. And while I’ll have the EFI heads on the ‘90, there’s something different about the exhaust so I’d have to use the manifolds that are on the ‘90 instead of the headers. Also, there’s a difference in combustion chamber size - what is the resulting CR with EFI heads on a carb block? As for the 351W intake, there are aftermarket parts that bolt right on and provide more power. But I’ve always thought the tubing of the factory units was cool, and that would fit with the theme of Dad’s truck - As Ford could have done it. Last, Tim didn’t design the new Track Boss intakes. Turns out a guy named Gary did, and he came to the show in September. We talked at length as I was wanting him to design an intake for an M-block with designated spots for injectors, but he didn’t seem to be ready to do that. However, maybe I should look him up and ask the 400 and 460 question. I’ll do that. 👍

How much wire did you have to cut out in order to find good copper? That’s why I want to do the wiring right on my trailer while the wire is new.

Perhaps the new code they are supposedly creating will provide that feature.

And people wonder why I solder and use adhesive-lined heat shrink. I have a deal with my trailer manufacturer - when he gets to that point I’ll come over with my soldering gun and heat shrink and make the connections.

Ok, but I need to start pulling all of this info together some place as I'm getting overload.

Folks - Should I create a new thread for the EFI'ing of Dad's truck? I can see we could keep this one and another going pretty easily. And I could transfer a number of these posts there. Bill - Is there really a reason for me to sign up with Core Tuning? If you can do the programming, I could buy a cpu from you and you could program it before sending it to me. Or, is there a lot of programming that needs to be done to tune things? All - I've been emailing with Dan Lee, whose engine is the one shown in the previous picture - the one Tim built. Dan says the intake is the biggest issue with EFI'ing a Cleveland. So, that's something we should discuss. I can see at least three options: Use a Cleveland intake with Price Motorsports Cleveland/M-block adaptors machined to take the injectors. Use the existing Weiand intake on the engine and machine it to take injectors. But, since it is a dual-plane intake that puts the injectors at different levels, if not different angles, and makes creating a fuel rail difficult. Use a 351W EFI lower and upper intake. Tim said he's always wanted to do this, and Price makes adapters to bolt a 351W intake to M-block heads. Tim suggested machining off the thermostat housing. Here's a couple of pics: Thoughts?

Bill - If you can find a place to get it really clean then wonderful. But I can media blast it to clean it up here, making your job easier. Got it on the torque converter. If you don't have suggestions I'll look around.

Jim - You ran another screw into the hull for a ground? Anyway, good pic of the intake. It lets me see the fuel rail, regulator, and several of the sensors.

Gary, is there a way to get to the first new post since I last visited? I know that clicking on the time (as you showed) gets to the last post, and clicking on the title of the thread goes to the first. But for instance, I haven't been on the site for a couple of days, and when I try to get caught up on some of the busier threads (like the project and "what have you done..." threads) I need to go to the last post and then go back page by page until I find something I recognize. Most boards seem to remember when you were last in a thread and have a way to go to the first new post, but I haven't found that here. I'm sorry, but this one doesn't appear to have that feature.

We apparently covered this in another thread, but the driver's door upper hinge/spring combo as well as the 4 metal headliner trim pieces will go out tomorrow. I'll send you the tracking info via email.

Bill - More ?'s on the tranny build. Do you have a way to get the outside of the case really clean? I ask because I want to paint it and that means all the stuck-on dirt, grease, etc has to be off. So, if you don't have a way then I could media-blast it before shipping it. I would protect any openings as best I could, but when you disassemble it you could get any grit out that had gotten in. Then, when I get it back I could wash it, gently, and paint it. What about upgrades? Are there any that should be or could be added? Is the original torque converter adequate?

Does this help?

What would Bill say? Part number was E6TZ-10519A64-J. And, to answer a question that might arise, the only roof consoles in the catalog were for the A, B, and R vehicles. Not our beloved pickups.

Ok, thanks. By the way, Dan sent me an email and I'm responding. He may have info I need for the EFI'ing.