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85lebaront2

Re: Ford Electrical Connectors....ARGHHH!!!

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Gary, I am thinking that further back in that book the individual harnesses are shown and that may be where I remember the PNs for the connectors being.

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Gary Lewis

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Thanks, Bill. I'll check it out in the morn.

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Gary Lewis

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Bill - I've just gone through the '86 schematics and while there are LOTS of connector depictions just like I showed before, there is no table or anything else showing part numbers. I wish, but no go.

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85lebaront2

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Crap, probably buried somewhere in the MPC.

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Gary Lewis

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Bill - My MPC is OCR'd, so I found them, or at least some of them. I need to see if I can cross reference your #'s, which I think are ID #'s, not part #'s, to these #'s. So here are your numbers:

.060 female, Ford PN E7EB-14487-AA, Clips & Fasteners A18408

.060 male, Ford PN E7EB-14461-BA, AUVECO 20475

.110 female, Ford PN D1AB-14488-CA, Dorman 85356, AUVECO 14888

.110 male, Ford PN D1AB-14461-AA, Dorman 85345, AUVECO 14887

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Gary Lewis

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I grabbed my 1980 cross-ref and the D1 #'s don't show, nothing that early. I'll have to get the later one and see if I can find the E7 #'s......

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Gary Lewis

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I found # E7EB 14487-AA as PN E6DZ 14487-A, but I can't find any of the others.

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Rusty_S85

Re: Ford Electrical Connectors....ARGHHH!!!

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I found # E7EB 14487-AA as PN E6DZ 14487-A, but I can't find any of the others.

Looked on Ebay no E6DZ but there is listings for the E7EB female pins 0.060" pins listed as 18-20Ga.

Need to take and get a new wordpad document going for my truck folder on my external hard drive and start working on this.

I need to hit up amazon as well and see if I can pick up two of those fuse boxes I am looking at. Recently made a discovery about them that I will be updating my Sniper Post with.

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85lebaront2

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Gary, those PNs are from the sources I get the parts from. Go to Dorman's site, AUVECO or Clips & Fasteners and plug in the PNs I gave for those sources.

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Gary Lewis

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Bill - I added some tabs to the page at Documentation/Electrical/Connectors. I'm not too pleased with it so I know there need to be changes. But please take a look and tell me what to change.

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85lebaront2

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Ok, on the large pin connectors, 7th row down you have one of the Crown Vic 4 & 8 pin ones on the left side and a 1/4" 4 flat pins on the right.. I also note that you didn't differentiate between weatherproof (with seals) and non-weatherproof. On the 3rd tab (mixed pin connectors) you have a few of the weatherproof .060 connectors, the 1/4" pair again pictures look good, once you click on them they pop out for a good look. BTW, if you want to make a removable front harness on BB, I will send you one or all of those 40 pin Lincoln Continental square ones.

Bill

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 4:42 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Bill - I added some tabs to the page at Documentation/Electrical/Connectors. I'm not too pleased with it so I know there need to be changes. But please take a look and tell me what to change.
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Gary Lewis

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Ok, I took the two off of the large pin tab and see that they are on the mixed tab.

But on the weatherproof, please tell me which ones are which and I'll separate them.

And, by a "removable front harness", which wires do you mean? Not the engine harness as it already has a connector. Sorry, I'm a bit lost.

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85lebaront2

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I will go over them tomorrow.

Bill

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:55 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ok, I took the two off of the large pin tab and see that they are on the mixed tab.

But on the weatherproof, please tell me which ones are which and I'll separate them.

And, by a "removable front harness", which wires do you mean? Not the engine harness as it already has a connector. Sorry, I'm a bit lost.
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Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2

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Ok, on the connectors page, under pictures, small pin connectors, using the id of the pictures as top left 1, top right 2 etc.

Picture 1 round 8 pin connectors, these have a flat O-ring inside the male housing and are used both inside and out. In front of the 5 different colors are the seals for the open end which are used outside the body. They come with varying numbers of holes, the red pieces are the retainers, flat is for the male insert shell, ribbed for the female plug.

Picture 2 is an end view of them.

Picture 3 are the 4 pin variety, again made in open and closed end, but also made with white closure to insure the rubber seal doesn't work out (this style seems to be used on O2 sensors). The end seals are in picture 6.

Picture 4, multi small pin, used in applications where a number of circuits are needed, radio systems with amplifiers, CD changers, electronic automatic climate control, remote keyless entry systems are examples. They are used as a plug into modules for these applications.

Picture 5, side view of connectors in picture 4

Picture 6, seals and locking pieces for connectors in picture 3

Picture 7, female small pin terminals.

Picture 8, male small pin terminals

Second tab:

Pictures 1 & 2, female and male .110 terminals

Pictures 3 through 14, non-weatherproof connectors, although in 1987 and 1988 Ford used these, grease packed as external connectors replacing the previous rubber filled "pull apart" connectors as are used on the Duraspark ignition connections.

Picture 15 is a 4 pin female shell, that can mate to a male version or a sensor (EGR for example).

Tab 3:

Pictures 1 - 5 are some 40 way (8 .110 and 32 .060) connectors from a 1995 Lincoln Continental, they were the "bulkhead" penetrations and were located on the side of the cowl at the rear of the right front fender, these are weatherproof outside (bolt end) but unsealed inside/ The inner portion of the connectors were snapped into holes in the cowl from the inside sealing them, the black channel was for the inside harness to retain it in place.

Pictures 6 and 9 are some connectors used on late 90s into the 2000s Panther platform (Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis and Town Car), they have 4 .110 and 8 .060 provisions and are weatherproof as they are used underhood.

Picture 7 is a male/female 4 pin flat 1/4" interior connector.

Pictures 8 & 12 are two pin .110 connectors, used on sensors, trailer brake feed, auxiliary relay boxes and similar, I have seen them with only 1 lead. The rubber end seal on these and the 4 pin ones is extremely deep. These are used on ABS actuators and other high current locations

Picture 10 is a 3 pin for male .060 and was a special application.

Picture 11 is some 2 .060 pin connectors, mostly used on ABS sensors and the end seal is captured by the end of the shell.

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Gary Lewis

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Bill - Thanks for taking all that time to write that up. I made a number of changes and would like you to vet it before I go farther. If I have the pics right then I'm going to try to use your verbiage for explanations. But, now that I've made changes it won't be easy to marry the explanations with the pics. So, if you want to give it to me again....

Note that some pics have legends that should pop up if you hover over them or click on them. In other cases I put the explanation in text before a section of pics.

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85lebaront2

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Under large pin connector/Interior use, the very last picture is the plug end of a weatherproof 4 pin. Other than that, looks great!

Bill

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Bill - Thanks for taking all that time to write that up. I made a number of changes and would like you to vet it before I go farther. If I have the pics right then I'm going to try to use your verbiage for explanations. But, now that I've made changes it won't be easy to marry the explanations with the pics. So, if you want to give it to me again....

Note that some pics have legends that should pop up if you hover over them or click on them. In other cases I put the explanation in text before a section of pics.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile
Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Gary Lewis

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Ok, I just put it in the Large Pin/Weatherproof set of tabs. Right?

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85lebaront2

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I realised reading through the multipin ones, I gave you a correct total, but incorrect count by size on the Lincoln Continental ones, it is 12 .110 and 28 .060

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:12 PM Bill Vose <[hidden email]> wrote:

Under large pin connector/Interior use, the very last picture is the plug end of a weatherproof 4 pin. Other than that, looks great!

Bill

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:40 PM Gary Lewis [via Bullnose Enthusiasts Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Bill - Thanks for taking all that time to write that up. I made a number of changes and would like you to vet it before I go farther. If I have the pics right then I'm going to try to use your verbiage for explanations. But, now that I've made changes it won't be easy to marry the explanations with the pics. So, if you want to give it to me again....

Note that some pics have legends that should pop up if you hover over them or click on them. In other cases I put the explanation in text before a section of pics.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2

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Yes, that is correct. I found my spare relay boxes, one two relay and one that will take 4 relays.

Bill

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Ok, I just put it in the Large Pin/Weatherproof set of tabs. Right?
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker in front & 10.25 Spicer/Trutrac in back, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Gary Lewis

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Ok, made the change to say "12 .110 and 28 .060".

On the relay boxes, can you post some pics on Big Blue's thread? As said, I have two 4-relay boxes, but want to consider the options.

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