DSO, FSO, LPO, and Regional vs District Offices

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Rembrant
In my 1984 FSM, it is page 10-00-3 where they have a picture of the door data tag, and an itemized list showing what each section is for.

Item 21 in mine is: District / Special Order Codes, or D/SO I guess.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Thanks.  I'll check my 1980, '81, and '85 out.

Grumpin/Bill - would you check the '86 version?
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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I will, I am also going to see what my 1994 Taurus manual and if I have it here the 1995 Lincoln Continental manual have under that section.
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"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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85lebaront2
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I will post what I have to you in an email later. I have 1980 Pinto/Bobcat/Mustang II, 1986 Truck, 1994 Taurus/Sable, 1995 Continental and 2011 Flex for information. In all but the Flex DSO is show as District code and a list of districts is provided, the Flex manual just sort of ignores it.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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grumpin
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Gary Lewis wrote
Thanks.  I'll check my 1980, '81, and '85 out.

Grumpin/Bill - would you check the '86 version?

My 1986 FSM has District/Special Order Codes on page 10-00-3, item 21, like Rembrandts.
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Gary Lewis
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Ok, I'm convinced.  Ford used the term DSO in at least two different ways in different publications: District Sales Office and Domestic Special Order.

My plan is write up our findings and explain things on the Specifications/DSO Codes page.  And then I'll let y'all know I've done it and you can read it and tell me what you think.

And, I'm going to use several of the pictures you've so kindly posted - or emailed like Bill did.  (Thanks, Bill.)  I'll create a collage that you can click on to see how Ford used the term and explain in the caption from whence it came.

Thanks!
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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No problem sir, it looks like it was an evolving term.
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"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Ford F834
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Interesting thread Gary, and it is useful to know the region in which a truck was originally sold. Of course in my case I looked up 86 and it says ‘Recreation’ which isn’t terribly informative regarding region. Any idea what constituted the recreation code?

I was curious about the special order code and looked at all of my certification label pics from the junkyard. I think I took a bunch because we had a question about spring codes? Anyway, I found ~one that had a six digit code there. Unfortunately I don’t remember anything about the truck or what might have made it a special order. I will have to watch for it in the future.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Gary Lewis
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I don't know what "recreation" or "recreation vehicle pool" means.  And I've done some surfing trying to find out, to no avail.  There are all kinds of opinions, but none that made any sense.

On the special order codes, we may not be able to figure them out.  But, at least we can try - especially if you can find the truck and determine what might be special about it.  Anyway, it is comforting to know that there are special order trucks out there, and probably domestic special order ones given it is in the US.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Gary Lewis
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Jonathan - Could you check your pic of the cert label that has the special order code and see if it is 6 digits and if the first two are the district code?

I ask because I have the following on the web page, which I got from Bill:

A 2 digit DSO code = District Sales Office, and a 6 digit DSO = 1st 2 digits = District Sales Office, and the last 4 digits = Domestic Special Order.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Gary Lewis
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Please take a look at the newly-revised DSO page: Specifications/DSO Codes.  Do you think it is accurate?  Does it explain the situation?  Is it understandable?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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85lebaront2
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Gary, looks good to me, you might want to add the Canadian District codes as they are alpha-numeric and should be on one of the pictures I sent you.
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"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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grumpin
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Ford F834 wrote
Interesting thread Gary, and it is useful to know the region in which a truck was originally sold. Of course in my case I looked up 86 and it says ‘Recreation’ which isn’t terribly informative regarding region. Any idea what constituted the recreation code?

I was curious about the special order code and looked at all of my certification label pics from the junkyard. I think I took a bunch because we had a question about spring codes? Anyway, I found ~one that had a six digit code there. Unfortunately I don’t remember anything about the truck or what might have made it a special order. I will have to watch for it in the future.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but wouldn't that be for trucks sold to RV manufacturers to build motorhomes?
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Ford F834
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Gary Lewis wrote
Jonathan - Could you check your pic of the cert label that has the special order code and see if it is 6 digits and if the first two are the district code?

I ask because I have the following on the web page, which I got from Bill:

A 2 digit DSO code = District Sales Office, and a 6 digit DSO = 1st 2 digits = District Sales Office, and the last 4 digits = Domestic Special Order.


This is it Gary. It is 6 digits and the first two are 76 which would be Denver. Definitely a plausible scenario. I’m guessing the truck is gone since I took the pic almost a year ago, but if I get a chance I will look for it.... or any others with 6 digits.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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85lebaront2
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Recreation would probably also have a 6 digit DSO and an "incomplete vehicle" label. On an E series it would be a cutaway, just a chassis and driver's area with the RV manufacturer providing a separate label with their information.
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"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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Ford F834
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Mine does not have a 6 digit, just “86”. It is noteworthy though that the bed did not match, the rear axle had ‘92 painted on the cover, and I looked up the BOM number stamped on the tube of the front Dana 60 and it indicated it was for a DRW application. But there were no 4x4 DRW’s except CnC which mine is not...

SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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Gary Lewis
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Jonathan - Thanks.  That pretty much confirms Bill's statement.

But I still have no clue on recreation.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Gary Lewis
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Bill - See what you think now.  I added the Canadian codes and another.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Rembrant
The Canadian district codes were already there weren’t they? The first attachment has them.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Yes, Cory, they were.  Well spotted.  

Well, after having spent some time editing the last pic to get it straight, cropped, and clearer I'm inclined to leave it.  Thoughts?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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