1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

gatof16
Got the interior almost stripped out. Lots of gross underneath...
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

Gary Lewis
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Not that bad.  I've seen worse.  Like being able to see the pavement below.

What are you going to do to seal it?  Sound deaden it?
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

gatof16
Looking for advice! Probably don't have the time or resources to raptor-line it or anything, but I've heard the sound deadening stuff you can buy at home depot works pretty well?
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

Gary Lewis
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If you mean Peel & Seal, it does work pretty well.  But some people have reported a strong petroleum smell in the vehicle after using it.  I've used it and didn't have a smell.  However, when I did Big Blue I used Noico products from Amazon.  Seem to have worked well.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

FuzzFace2
I used roll on bed liner I got at Auto Zone (duplicolor) 2 coats top & bottom of my cab.
It did noting for sound, little rocks bouncing off the bottom sounded like gum fire!
I did it more for protection than anything else.

What helped on sound was carpet, once down it was a whole new truck!
And yes I put it down over the roll on bed liner.

I also used the peel & seal but in the doors only as I did hear about the smell.
Being it gets really hot down here I did not want it smelling when hot.
I put 2 strips in each door, outside door skin.
I did this before it was on the road so dont know if it helped on sound but the doors sound more solid when closing.
I dont get any smell from them in the doors but maybe it would not inside the cab?

If I wanted it really quiet I would have bought a lux car LOL
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

gatof16
Thanks fellas! I'll check out the Amazon stuff that Gary talked about. I'm gonna try to work on getting the back window to come down because it's like an oven in there right now. I've heard taking the bolts of that hold the glass on the slider is the first step?
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

Gary Lewis
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Don't miss the section from the factory shop manual on that here: Documentation/Body/Bronco Rear Window.

As for the heat, you might also look at the Noico foam insulation.  I used it on the inside of the roof and on the floor and back wall.  Seems to have helped.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

grumpin
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Since the window is up I would prop up the glass and pull the motor. Then you could lower the glass, open the window and install the new motor. If your able perhaps you could put the new motor in from the inside.
But its a bit of a pain to get that motor in.

Having said that I haven’t done one that way. I just replaced mine but I was able to use the motor to raise and lower it one last time. I supported the glass when the tailgate was open and the glass all the way out with a saw horse.

My Bronco is silver and black with the fiberglass top being black. I do believe it is the hottest vehicle I have ever owned!
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FuzzFace2
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gatof16 wrote
Thanks fellas! I'll check out the Amazon stuff that Gary talked about. I'm gonna try to work on getting the back window to come down because it's like an oven in there right now. I've heard taking the bolts of that hold the glass on the slider is the first step?
First step is to check the fuse
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81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

gatof16
All right I've been back to work on ol' Mossberg. I have it running and driving, but I have three big problems:

1. The throttle doesn't seem to go all the way back to idle. If push it back into place at the throttle body (by hand) it'll go back. I've cleaned the springs and the assembly at the top but maybe its because of the cable itself?

2. I have no hazards. Is there only one flasher for the 86 Bronco? I'm only finding one on the fuse panel (nothing behind it or anywhere else). Really don't want to replace the directional switch in the steering column...

3. I have no tail lights, brake lights, or reverse lights. I'll eventually figure this one out shooting wires I guess. I'm just complaining to complain...

Hope everyone is doing well!
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

Gary Lewis
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I would pull the throttle cable off and see if that makes a difference.  And maybe lube things with a graphite or Teflon spray.

As for the hazards, there is supposed to be a second flasher on the front side of the fuse block.  That's the hazards flasher, and if it isn't there you won't have hazards.

On the rear lights, that sounds like a ground problem.  All of the rear lights on an '86 ground via a wire that comes into the cab and goes under a screw on the firewall ahead of the radio.  Check that ground.  And/or provide a ground to the tail light setup temporarily to see if that fixes it.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

gatof16
Ok thanks Gary! A couple more questions:

1. I am not seeing a place for a second flasher. There is one on the front of the fuse panel, but not even a place for a second one on the back. I can't find a place for a second one on an 86 Bronco anywhere? The Haynes manual talks about one "one the right side of the instrument cluster" but am not seeing that either...

2. The ground by the radio on the firewall...is that visible with the radio out, or do I have to take the rest of the dash out to access it?

Thanks for your help as always...
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

Gary Lewis
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I'll take a picture in a bit of the back side of a fuse panel to show you what I'm talking about.  But you do have the pull the screw(s) to get to it.

As for the ground, you should be able to see it w/o pulling the radio.  But you can test by pulling one of the tail light assemblies out and grounding a bulb to see if that works.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

StraightSix
How are things going with your interior? That is a super cool resurrection project. seeing your wiring harness running across the rear floorboard helped me out  bit, by the way. Did you get straightened out on your tailgate motor?
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

Gary Lewis
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Here's a shot of the rear of an '82 fuse box on the left and of the side on the right:

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

gatof16
Ah those pics are perfect! It's definitely missing that back flasher. Since it doesn't look "indented" like the front, I thought there wasn't a spot for it.

@StraightSix As for the interior, it's still a work in progress. I got the dash and the kick panels painted, and I'll install as soon as I get my wiring issues done. I got the front seats upholstered and temporarily installed the driver so I can test drive around the neighborhood. Still haven't tackled the rear window yet...

Also, I filed for a lost title last March and FINALLY got it in!

I'll get to work this weekend and give you an update...
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

StraightSix
Awesome! Ive been inside the tailgates of these a few times, its not as bad as youre probably thinking. There is a 2 wire plug near the bottom of the center support of the tailgate, those are the wires for the motor. Its fairly easy to jump power through that plug to get the window up or down in a pinch. Removing the 4 bolts at the bottom of the window pane will allow you to remove the glass if need be. If you have to remove the window motor, be careful. The spring that assists the motor in raising the glass can cause the arms to slam shut, potentially causing serious injury. At some point ford added a bend in the bracket to prevent this (arms hit the bracket). Im not sure if our trucks have that. If you take the window motor out, perhaps consider replacing the plastic balls in the coupling with steel ones. I have a few laying around.



The plastic balls (not pictured) go between the two parts of the coupling. The plastic ones eventually disintegrate causing the motor to spin but the window to remain in place.

Ive had good luck opening the tailgate then rolling the window out and supporting its weight on a chair, pile of boxes, etc. It seems to make working on the tailgate much easier.
1984 Bronco, mild built 300-6, Np435, 3.55 gears, 8.8 rear with Eaton TrueTrac, D44 TTB front, 31" tires, Duraspark II, Offy C, EFI manifolds, Holley 390, No AC, 3G alternator, front receiver
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

gatof16
Nice! Thanks for the advice! Ill probably tackle this last in case I have to leave the window down and then of course it will snowpocolypse in Oklahoma.

I found an old flasher and plugged it into the back of the fuse panel and the hazards worked! Seemed really slow though...
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

mat in tn
are there any bulbs out or switched to led? low amp draw will slow down a flasher or even stop one if all bulbs are led. there is an electronic one for use with led. then again it could just be an old weak flasher
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Re: 1986 Bronco (Mossberg)

Gary Lewis
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Well, at least you got them working, albeit slowly.  One small step for mankind.  
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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