Rembrant Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I know that some industrial belts are like multiple V-belts in a single carcass. I wonder if I can split a pair out of one of those? Good question. I know that the common industrial A-B series V-belts are not the same as automotive V-belts, but I don't know what the difference is. I know the guys in the belt shops are always complaining about car guys coming in...lol. (Edit...I should say they used to complain...not many v-belt applications left on the road where I live. Just the classics in the summer, and none in the winter months). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I know that some industrial belts are like multiple V-belts in a single carcass. I wonder if I can split a pair out of one of those? Good question. I know that the common industrial A-B series V-belts are not the same as automotive V-belts, but I don't know what the difference is. I know the guys in the belt shops are always complaining about car guys coming in...lol. (Edit...I should say they used to complain...not many v-belt applications left on the road where I live. Just the classics in the summer, and none in the winter months). Well, ill try not to tic off the guys at the power transmission warehouse. I'm still going to be looking for a matched set from a quality manufacturer. Dayco, Goodyear, Gates or something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzFace2 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I know that some industrial belts are like multiple V-belts in a single carcass. I wonder if I can split a pair out of one of those? Yep At the hospital a lot of my AHU would run 4 to 6 belts we called mats that way. They looked like they for got to cut the belts apart to make singles. The 2 & 3 belt units I could get matched single belts but we are talking B & C wide belts. Also some of the single industrial belts were green to tell you they were industrial belts. They would last longer than the normal black belts. Dave ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26ftcobraBBF Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 Mike, I have the same issue. A long time ago you could buy 'matched set' belts from Gates. But I don't think that is the case anymore. So, yes it is (or was) a real thing. Since I have to deal with it I will let you know what I find when I talk with my commercial guys at the warehouse. I've never had to buy a matched automotive set, but I know it is common in the industrial world. We used to buy matched sets all the time. Sometimes, it was a matter of the guy going through the belts he had in-stock to make-up a matched set. They get all mixed up in shipping, but it is often the case that they have belts from the same batch in-stock...they just don't know it until they look. Here's some reading from Gates: https://ww2.gates.com/IF/facts/documents/Gf000194.pdf Rembrandt thank you for the link. That was excellent information to have in my back pocket while chasing these belts down. There are 8 parts stored in my area I had to continuously reiterate "matched set", and explain to more than half of them. Thanks to you I went into this educated about what I needed. A couple of the parts houses told me they had them, then when I showed up they weren't a match. I even had carquest which had one belt call the other car quest that had one belt they determined they were a matched set,I show up to pick up the second belt and no they were not. Last option was the smallest part store in town just a mom and pop joint i had never been in there. The place always look like it was on the verge of being pushed out by the the corporate parts stored. But guess what?? A matched set of Gates...Victory!! No more squeeling like a pig. Again the shop talk here is spot on . Thanks everyone for the lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Rembrandt thank you for the link. That was excellent information to have in my back pocket while chasing these belts down. There are 8 parts stored in my area I had to continuously reiterate "matched set", and explain to more than half of them. Thanks to you I went into this educated about what I needed. A couple of the parts houses told me they had them, then when I showed up they weren't a match. I even had carquest which had one belt call the other car quest that had one belt they determined they were a matched set,I show up to pick up the second belt and no they were not. Last option was the smallest part store in town just a mom and pop joint i had never been in there. The place always look like it was on the verge of being pushed out by the the corporate parts stored. But guess what?? A matched set of Gates...Victory!! No more squeeling like a pig. Again the shop talk here is spot on . Thanks everyone for the lesson. What number are you using Mike? 15550? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Rembrandt thank you for the link. That was excellent information to have in my back pocket while chasing these belts down. There are 8 parts stored in my area I had to continuously reiterate "matched set", and explain to more than half of them. Thanks to you I went into this educated about what I needed. A couple of the parts houses told me they had them, then when I showed up they weren't a match. I even had carquest which had one belt call the other car quest that had one belt they determined they were a matched set,I show up to pick up the second belt and no they were not. Last option was the smallest part store in town just a mom and pop joint i had never been in there. The place always look like it was on the verge of being pushed out by the the corporate parts stored. But guess what?? A matched set of Gates...Victory!! No more squeeling like a pig. Again the shop talk here is spot on . Thanks everyone for the lesson. Yippee! Perseverance, combined with education, pays off. My guess is that the people in the mom & pop joint have been in the business for a long time, including back in the pre-serpentine day when it wasn't unusual to have dual belts. But the kids running the computers in the corporate parts stores have never seen that need. I walked into O'Reilly's the other day needing speedometer cable lube. The guy behind the counter asked "Year and model?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Yippee! Perseverance, combined with education, pays off. My guess is that the people in the mom & pop joint have been in the business for a long time, including back in the pre-serpentine day when it wasn't unusual to have dual belts. But the kids running the computers in the corporate parts stores have never seen that need. I walked into O'Reilly's the other day needing speedometer cable lube. The guy behind the counter asked "Year and model?" https://ww2.gates.com/IF/facts/documents/Gf000194.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 https://ww2.gates.com/IF/facts/documents/Gf000194.pdf Like i said to Cory, I don't care what Gates says, it doesn't work in practice. I've gone to the warehouse and pulled adjacent belts out of a fresh case and they don't measure the same on a belt checker. Either their manufacturing tolerances are not nearly what they would like you to believe or it is an outright lie for some marketing purposes. I will continue to look for a matched pair, and when I do I'll change out my power steering belts for a pair I can tension together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26ftcobraBBF Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 https://ww2.gates.com/IF/facts/documents/Gf000194.pdf Gary funny you mentioned O'Riley's, I did the same there, I was returning an accelerator pump I bought and ended up not using. I gave it to the kid behind the computer with my receipt, and he looks as the package and says, with a cocky attitude" where's the rest of it, where's the pump" that was a good laugh, well deserved I might add. Jim, Im using Gates 7545. Before I found these the guy at Advance Auto was going to order me the green stripe Gates, but said they don't come in 3/8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Gary funny you mentioned O'Riley's, I did the same there, I was returning an accelerator pump I bought and ended up not using. I gave it to the kid behind the computer with my receipt, and he looks as the package and says, with a cocky attitude" where's the rest of it, where's the pump" that was a good laugh, well deserved I might add. Jim, Im using Gates 7545. Before I found these the guy at Advance Auto was going to order me the green stripe Gates, but said they don't come in 3/8... Thank you for that tidbit, Mike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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