Gary Lewis Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I found this on a page detailing TOD, RTS, and T170 conversions for Model Ts and As. It appears the "A" kit comes with all those other suffixes. Highlighted green are just the ones needed for "toploader" service. Cool! You should be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJam300 Posted February 7, 2022 Author Share Posted February 7, 2022 I found this on a page detailing TOD, RTS, and T170 conversions for Model Ts and As. It appears the "A" kit comes with all those other suffixes. Highlighted green are just the ones needed for "toploader" service. Yesterday I stayed up late drinking and removing the SROD transmission. I didn't really know if I could dismantle the weird 4x4 adapter-shifter housing so I left it in place and had to wrestle the crossmember out of the way. Luckily this transmission is extremely light. I can easily pick up the whole thing by hand. I didn't even need to drain all the fluid or use a real transmission jack. I went through the scrapyard at work and cut the door off an old electrical panel, drilled a 1" hole in the center, bolted it to my floor jack, and ratchet strapped the transmission to the plate. It swivels too. Earlier that day I went to a couple self service scrapyards to find a floor plate and a 4x4 shifter linkage. Ended up with a pair of EFI manifolds and a Y pipe ($50) that was conveniently lying in the engine bay of a stripped 90s F150. I figure I could probably use the Y pipe for an O2 sensor if I go with throttle body injection. The floor plate and shifter linkage came out of a Bullnose 4x4 F150 with what looked like a NP435. I hope this works with a T19. I was lucky to find it. I accidentally cut the transmission shifter boot with my razor knife when pulling the dilapidated vinyl flooring back.... The shifter linkage I got is a splined shaft which is disappointing. But I might end up putting threads on it. I really wish I could figure out why some of these pictures are right side up on my PC but are 90 degrees to the left when I post them. I tried using the image rotation code but it just ruins the rest of the post. I'm young, but I don't know computers to save my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Yesterday I stayed up late drinking and removing the SROD transmission. I didn't really know if I could dismantle the weird 4x4 adapter-shifter housing so I left it in place and had to wrestle the crossmember out of the way. Luckily this transmission is extremely light. I can easily pick up the whole thing by hand. I didn't even need to drain all the fluid or use a real transmission jack. I went through the scrapyard at work and cut the door off an old electrical panel, drilled a 1" hole in the center, bolted it to my floor jack, and ratchet strapped the transmission to the plate. It swivels too. Earlier that day I went to a couple self service scrapyards to find a floor plate and a 4x4 shifter linkage. Ended up with a pair of EFI manifolds and a Y pipe ($50) that was conveniently lying in the engine bay of a stripped 90s F150. I figure I could probably use the Y pipe for an O2 sensor if I go with throttle body injection. The floor plate and shifter linkage came out of a Bullnose 4x4 F150 with what looked like a NP435. I hope this works with a T19. I was lucky to find it. I accidentally cut the transmission shifter boot with my razor knife when pulling the dilapidated vinyl flooring back.... The shifter linkage I got is a splined shaft which is disappointing. But I might end up putting threads on it. I really wish I could figure out why some of these pictures are right side up on my PC but are 90 degrees to the left when I post them. I tried using the image rotation code but it just ruins the rest of the post. I'm young, but I don't know computers to save my life. You are making good progress. And the adapter to your floor jack is a good idea. Good score at the salvage. Those EFI manifolds are said to flow a lot better. On the pics, the issue is that modern cameras embed an orientation code in the metadata of the picture and computers and mobile devices read that and orient the picture properly. This forum, and many other forums, doesn't read that code so doesn't re-orient the pic. So however you oriented the camera is how the picture displays. The way I fix that is to open the picture in some photo editing app and then save it. Sometimes the editing software doesn't rotate the image the way I want it and I have to rotate myself, but at least you can see it on the monitor and know which way up is. And that then works with the forum. At the same time I rotate the pic I downsize it to ~500kb. The max you can post on here is 1Mb, but there isn't any need for such a high res pic. So I shoot in whatever my camera shoots in natively and then downsize it and rotate it in one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSix Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 You are making good progress. And the adapter to your floor jack is a good idea. Good score at the salvage. Those EFI manifolds are said to flow a lot better. On the pics, the issue is that modern cameras embed an orientation code in the metadata of the picture and computers and mobile devices read that and orient the picture properly. This forum, and many other forums, doesn't read that code so doesn't re-orient the pic. So however you oriented the camera is how the picture displays. The way I fix that is to open the picture in some photo editing app and then save it. Sometimes the editing software doesn't rotate the image the way I want it and I have to rotate myself, but at least you can see it on the monitor and know which way up is. And that then works with the forum. At the same time I rotate the pic I downsize it to ~500kb. The max you can post on here is 1Mb, but there isn't any need for such a high res pic. So I shoot in whatever my camera shoots in natively and then downsize it and rotate it in one go. Agreed, nice find on the efi manifolds. I did my exh manifilds, offy intake and carb upgrade all at once so it would be hard for me to say how much the exh manifolds themselves helped but lots of people who have a stock carb engine and those manifolds suggest a large change in felt bottom end. Do be cautious, my efi manifolds melted parts of my alternator harness. Id keep an eye on that and either attempt to retain the factory heat shield or wrap the manifold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzFace2 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Agreed, nice find on the efi manifolds. I did my exh manifilds, offy intake and carb upgrade all at once so it would be hard for me to say how much the exh manifolds themselves helped but lots of people who have a stock carb engine and those manifolds suggest a large change in felt bottom end. Do be cautious, my efi manifolds melted parts of my alternator harness. Id keep an eye on that and either attempt to retain the factory heat shield or wrap the manifold. I also run the EFI manifolds, Y pipe and stock carb but as most I did this as part of my truck rebuild so dont know what change it made as I did not drive the truck before that. I got to say I am happy with the out come so far. Dave ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJam300 Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 I also run the EFI manifolds, Y pipe and stock carb but as most I did this as part of my truck rebuild so dont know what change it made as I did not drive the truck before that. I got to say I am happy with the out come so far. Dave ---- Since I've already got the transmission out I've been thinking of just pulling the engine and everything else out of the engine bay, painting the engine bay, and putting it back together. The crossroads of deleting the unreliable emissions control stuff and adding EFI is highly dependent on the answer I get back from Dirt Legal regarding registration in South Dakota under an LLC in New Mexico. The question was the legality of doing this in California in respect to a law that could slap me with a misdemeanor if I get pulled over. My lawyer friend seems to think that I should be fine. I've decided to rip out the old wiring harness and put in a brand new one. I'm an electrical technician by trade, but automotive wiring is a bit different than what I deal with at work, and I feel very intimidated. I have built wiring harnesses with Molex-type connectors for electrical panels in the past, so I can't imagine the connectors would be very different, it's mostly the routing that scares me. The product I'm interested in is the American Auto Wire kit as it has comprehensive instructions specifically for our trucks. If there is a cheaper kit that's just as good, I'd like to know. And if anyone has advice I sure could use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac79 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Since I've already got the transmission out I've been thinking of just pulling the engine and everything else out of the engine bay, painting the engine bay, and putting it back together. The crossroads of deleting the unreliable emissions control stuff and adding EFI is highly dependent on the answer I get back from Dirt Legal regarding registration in South Dakota under an LLC in New Mexico. The question was the legality of doing this in California in respect to a law that could slap me with a misdemeanor if I get pulled over. My lawyer friend seems to think that I should be fine. I've decided to rip out the old wiring harness and put in a brand new one. I'm an electrical technician by trade, but automotive wiring is a bit different than what I deal with at work, and I feel very intimidated. I have built wiring harnesses with Molex-type connectors for electrical panels in the past, so I can't imagine the connectors would be very different, it's mostly the routing that scares me. The product I'm interested in is the American Auto Wire kit as it has comprehensive instructions specifically for our trucks. If there is a cheaper kit that's just as good, I'd like to know. And if anyone has advice I sure could use it. That kit should be an absolute breeze for you. I got a universal kit from Painless(for about a 1/4 of the price) and I was surprised how easy it all was. And I'm not an electrical anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJam300 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 That kit should be an absolute breeze for you. I got a universal kit from Painless(for about a 1/4 of the price) and I was surprised how easy it all was. And I'm not an electrical anything... Well I hit a brick wall on the T19 rebuild. Anyone got any tips on how to remove this lock ring? I've been trying for several hours and destroyed one of my snap ring pliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Well I hit a brick wall on the T19 rebuild. Anyone got any tips on how to remove this lock ring? I've been trying for several hours and destroyed one of my snap ring pliers. I know they are expensive, but these Knipex snap ring pliers have done the job on things like that for me. I, too, broke several cheaper pliers until I got those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taskswap Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I know they are expensive, but these Knipex snap ring pliers have done the job on things like that for me. I, too, broke several cheaper pliers until I got those. Probably doesn't help you much but just in case... I was researching T-18 rebuilds, different thing but a lot of T-19 posts and videos come up when you do. I seem to recall this being a common problem-post and the advice being a combo of "try ratcheting snap ring pliers to pinch it then use a 90 degree hook tool to pry it out" and "just drill it every 3" and get a new one you'll destroy the teeth anyway". So... maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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