Replacing Sliding Rear Window with solid Glass - good idea" Which gasket do I use?

[CountryBumkin]

I'm thinking of repalcign the factory Sliding Rear window on my 1982 F250 Lariat with a Solid Glass window.

Because the sliding window leaks and rattles, and now I see some rust under the rubber gasket. So if I'm going to pull out the window, I think I would be better off just installing a solid glass rear window. Plus I never open/use the rear window.

I checked Dennis Carpenter site, and Jeff's Bronco Graveyard - they don't have anything. But LMC truck does have a solid rear window.

So is there any reason not to go solid? I assume the body opening is the same for either style and just the gasket is different.

Which gasket do I get?

(1) They show a gasket for window with the chrome insert, which I have now and would not mine reusing.

(2) Or they show a gasket for a truck that "originally came with a sliding rear window". That sounds like it is intended for those going from slider to solid window.

[Gary Lewis]

Mike - I don't see any reason not to go with a solid window, although I won't as I open mine up from time to time. Are you going with a tinted window? I would as the sun gets hot.

As for the gasket, I would call them and ask. The bit about "originally came with a sliding rear window" doesn't make sense to me as the trucks aren't different. So why does it matter what it originally came with?

[FuzzFace2]

Mike - I don't see any reason not to go with a solid window, although I won't as I open mine up from time to time. Are you going with a tinted window? I would as the sun gets hot.

As for the gasket, I would call them and ask. The bit about "originally came with a sliding rear window" doesn't make sense to me as the trucks aren't different. So why does it matter what it originally came with?

IIRC the Ford slider had a thicker frame that fits into the rubber.

The after market slider has a thinner frame and can use a rubber gasket for solid glass or after market slider.

Now my truck came with a slider that was like yours, gaskets dried & broken, no latch ... junk!

My parts truck had a solid glass, it was almost out from the roll over and pulled it for the ride home.

I used it and the gasket that was on it and with its first wash last weekend no leaks.

You may want to check Amazon for the glass and if you don't care if you have the chrome, this can be a PITA when installing glass, get a new gasket.

Remember that gasket has been in the truck for a long time and dries out and gets stiff making it hard to install the glass.

That brings up - who will be installing the glass? If not you the shop may want a new gasket to install the glass.

BTW I was able to install the rear glass by myself but I have also done rubber gasket glass in stalls, VW bugs, so I knew how to do it but would have been nice to have help.

Dave ----

[ArdWrknTrk]

Mike - I don't see any reason not to go with a solid window, although I won't as I open mine up from time to time. Are you going with a tinted window? I would as the sun gets hot.

As for the gasket, I would call them and ask. The bit about "originally came with a sliding rear window" doesn't make sense to me as the trucks aren't different. So why does it matter what it originally came with?

"Original sliding rear window" is the factory slider with the much wider glass channel.

Aftermarket windows like CR Laurence use the single glass gasket (AMHIK!)

I went with the 'chrome' trim for originality.

A couple of years back I documented this, when I was up in Vermont, in the fall.

Goop or KY on the gasket and braided blind cord from the hardware.

If you're trying it by yourself a couple of those cheap glass handling suction cups from Horrid Fate help immensely.

Not sure how many pics I posted when I did that and recovered my front seat, but both the gasket and seat cover came from Victoria LTD/Long Motors Corporation.

 

[Rembrant]

So is there any reason not to go solid?

I can tell you that even on a cold day, when the sun hits that back window, it acts just like a magnifying glass on the back of your neck! I even felt it a couple weeks ago when I was sitting at a stop light...it was probably only 44F degrees out, and the back of my head and neck felt like it was 110F degrees out...lol.

I actually prefer the clean look of the solid back glass, but I personally need to do something with mine...either tint it, or install a tinted slider window, or install AC, or all of the above. I can't leave mine as it is for another summer.

 

[CountryBumkin]

"Original sliding rear window" is the factory slider with the much wider glass channel.

Aftermarket windows like CR Laurence use the single glass gasket (AMHIK!)

I went with the 'chrome' trim for originality.

A couple of years back I documented this, when I was up in Vermont, in the fall.

Goop or KY on the gasket and braided blind cord from the hardware.

If you're trying it by yourself a couple of those cheap glass handling suction cups from Horrid Fate help immensely.

Not sure how many pics I posted when I did that and recovered my front seat, but both the gasket and seat cover came from Victoria LTD/Long Motors Corporation.

Hi guys, I did replace the gasket once before (for my OEM Slider with the chrome trim insert) to repai some rust forming under the gasket at the bottom. I bought the gasket from Dennis Carpenter site then (good quality). I did the replacement myself. It was a pain but not too bad. I used the rope in the gasket method with a lot of silicone spray and a cotter-pin puller tool.

Since the gasket is leaking again (I think the drain holes in the slider track clog) and now I have some rust showing, I want to eliminate the Slider style with the "drain holes" and go solid.

But I like the idea to just have a auto glass installer do the job. Having done the job once, I would gladly pay $50 to have someone else do it. I'll have to see what they charge.

I am going to go with the tinted glass (says tinted green). I'd rather have a dark tint but I could always add more tinting if I want to.

Regarding the gasket that says "Original Sliding Rear Window" it does seem strange to note that. Why would it matter? If the body opening and thickness is the same for solid window and slider window). I know the gasket is different for each style window - but what the truck came with originally should not matter.

I am tempted to call and ask - but I know I'l get some sales person that doesn't have a clue and just repeats the notes in the catalog. I have a much better chance of getting good information here. It's like going to the parts store for wiper blades and the clerk wants to know if I have an automatic transmission or a manual.

[ArdWrknTrk]

Hi guys, I did replace the gasket once before (for my OEM Slider with the chrome trim insert) to repai some rust forming under the gasket at the bottom. I bought the gasket from Dennis Carpenter site then (good quality). I did the replacement myself. It was a pain but not too bad. I used the rope in the gasket method with a lot of silicone spray and a cotter-pin puller tool.

Since the gasket is leaking again (I think the drain holes in the slider track clog) and now I have some rust showing, I want to eliminate the Slider style with the "drain holes" and go solid.

But I like the idea to just have a auto glass installer do the job. Having done the job once, I would gladly pay $50 to have someone else do it. I'll have to see what they charge.

I am going to go with the tinted glass (says tinted green). I'd rather have a dark tint but I could always add more tinting if I want to.

Regarding the gasket that says "Original Sliding Rear Window" it does seem strange to note that. Why would it matter? If the body opening and thickness is the same for solid window and slider window). I know the gasket is different for each style window - but what the truck came with originally should not matter.

I am tempted to call and ask - but I know I'l get some sales person that doesn't have a clue and just repeats the notes in the catalog. I have a much better chance of getting good information here. It's like going to the parts store for wiper blades and the clerk wants to know if I have an automatic transmission or a manual.

Thickness is NOT the same.

The groove for a factory slider is like 7/8" wide.

An aftermarket slider or single glass will not stay in there.

[Rembrant]

It's like going to the parts store for wiper blades and the clerk wants to know if I have an automatic transmission or a manual.

Ha! It also helps if you provide the wheelbase dimensions...lol. Poor guys, some of them are so robotic, they already know that the question is irrelevant, but they ask it anyway. The auto parts shop I frequent the most if pretty good, but the youngest guy working there is probably 50, so that helps.

 

[Gary Lewis]

Hi guys, I did replace the gasket once before (for my OEM Slider with the chrome trim insert) to repai some rust forming under the gasket at the bottom. I bought the gasket from Dennis Carpenter site then (good quality). I did the replacement myself. It was a pain but not too bad. I used the rope in the gasket method with a lot of silicone spray and a cotter-pin puller tool.

Since the gasket is leaking again (I think the drain holes in the slider track clog) and now I have some rust showing, I want to eliminate the Slider style with the "drain holes" and go solid.

But I like the idea to just have a auto glass installer do the job. Having done the job once, I would gladly pay $50 to have someone else do it. I'll have to see what they charge.

I am going to go with the tinted glass (says tinted green). I'd rather have a dark tint but I could always add more tinting if I want to.

Regarding the gasket that says "Original Sliding Rear Window" it does seem strange to note that. Why would it matter? If the body opening and thickness is the same for solid window and slider window). I know the gasket is different for each style window - but what the truck came with originally should not matter.

I am tempted to call and ask - but I know I'l get some sales person that doesn't have a clue and just repeats the notes in the catalog. I have a much better chance of getting good information here. It's like going to the parts store for wiper blades and the clerk wants to know if I have an automatic transmission or a manual.

I've had good luck calling LMC. It was a few years ago about mechanical clutch linkage parts, but the lady I drew knew what she was talking about.

[CountryBumkin]

Thickness is NOT the same.

The groove for a factory slider is like 7/8" wide.

An aftermarket slider or single glass will not stay in there.

Jim,

I meant the thickness of the body (the sheet metal width where the gasket clamps around the body) should be the same regardless of window type. I guess that would be described as the gasket's "outside spacing/gap".

I know the gasket thickness (where the glass sits - the gasket's "inside spacing/gap") is different for the slider versus solid.