ArdWrknTrk Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just what does mileage mean to you on a vehicle that's close to 40 years old. It certainly doesn't give any idea whether the vehicle is in good condition either mechanically or body wise. A high mileage vehicle will show wear on components that get touched when being used. Like stated above pedals, seats, steering wheel, door panels around the handles. But previous owners could of changed all those components too, like me when I changed the color of one truck I also replaced the interior to a different color. Up here in the Canadian rust belt mileage on a vehicle means very little to me. I can deal with worn mechanical parts easy enough but rusted out body and frames are impossible to fix completely as the rust soon returns. What I see often are vehicles that are listed for sale as rust free, usually really means it got a paint job and a quick look underneath tells a different story. I'm saying to Vivek that how many miles are on the vehicle don't matter, what does matter is maintenance and lack of abuse. Maybe you think I'm off base? I personally think he's making much ado of nothing, and shouldn't be trying to chisel down a seller. Either it's a bad deal and you walk away, or it's fair and you drive it home. 🤷♂️ I realize other cultures revolve around bickering over price. That's not me, and never will be. I refuse to even make time for that nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJam300 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I agree it is frustrating that people will subtract 100s of thousands off the theoretical odometer just to make the ad appealing or just straight up lie. I bought my 82 Bronco that sat in a field for 25 years and the odo said 40 something which sounded possible. I had nothing really to gauge the mileage on because the whole truck was in disrepair from the elements and rodent damage but it was all original parts with nearly nothing missing. I find out later the inline 6 engine was bored .020 over with a 85/86 head which tells me it's at minimum 100k miles above the odometer. Doesn't mean a whole lot to me since I'm going through everything. I think this one was just a lemon and the original owners dumped it. I haven't been through as many vehicles as Alan has, but yeah floor wear on the driver side makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viven44 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 I'm saying to Vivek that how many miles are on the vehicle don't matter, what does matter is maintenance and lack of abuse. Maybe you think I'm off base? I personally think he's making much ado of nothing, and shouldn't be trying to chisel down a seller. Either it's a bad deal and you walk away, or it's fair and you drive it home. 🤷♂️ I realize other cultures revolve around bickering over price. That's not me, and never will be. I refuse to even make time for that nonsense. "chisel down a seller" ?? That would be a bad idea.. both on the ju-ju front and also it won't work well for after-purchase potential help-needs. I have so far always paid full asking price for anything I have bought ever. For the ones that were priced high, a fair offer has been made and usually that never resulted in a buy. With miles on these trucks unknown most of the time, I figured it would be beneficial. I can't tell how many people have bought or overpaid based on "original miles" claims. On the cultural side Jim -- I am well aware of what you are referring to.. Bargaining just for instant gratification and because you must.. I abhor that. When I sell stuff people do that sometimes.. it is frustrating so I try not to do that to others. I escaped that bargaining culture. I am probably too proud and egotistical to bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhauler Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I'm saying to Vivek that how many miles are on the vehicle don't matter, what does matter is maintenance and lack of abuse. Maybe you think I'm off base? I personally think he's making much ado of nothing, and shouldn't be trying to chisel down a seller. Either it's a bad deal and you walk away, or it's fair and you drive it home. 🤷♂️ I realize other cultures revolve around bickering over price. That's not me, and never will be. I refuse to even make time for that nonsense. Hey Jim was targeting that statement at anyone directly when I post I just click on the "reply" button of the last posted message. As for Vivek I'm envious vehicles with no rust every where around me would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viven44 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 Hey Jim was targeting that statement at anyone directly when I post I just click on the "reply" button of the last posted message. As for Vivek I'm envious vehicles with no rust every where around me would be awesome. Yes I have done that unintentional reply to someone sometimes and I worry about that always when posting in WHYDWYTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Hey Jim was targeting that statement at anyone directly when I post I just click on the "reply" button of the last posted message. As for Vivek I'm envious vehicles with no rust every where around me would be awesome. I didn't take it personally, I was just trying to reply to you directly, because it referenced my post. The DOT here uses plenty of salt, and mag chloride brine to precondition the roads. You aren't going to find an 80's truck without rotted spring hangers, crossmembers, radiator support, etc. Get out of the rust belt or the maritimes and I think you'll find solid vehicles. I also didn't mean to poke at Vivek. I'm just saying that people will nit pick and waste my time when I'm completely upfront about condition. "as is" means just that. Don't come to me six months later when you get a flat tire that I told you was 15 years old... I don't play that game. If you want to come on my property and threaten me over some stupid ****, you are likely to wake up in hospital (if you DO wake up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Yes I have done that unintentional reply to someone sometimes and I worry about that always when posting in WHYDWYTT Fortunately that will go away very soon. You CAN reply to someone, and that way you can quote all, or part, of their post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viven44 Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 I didn't take it personally, I was just trying to reply to you directly, because it referenced my post. The DOT here uses plenty of salt, and mag chloride brine to precondition the roads. You aren't going to find an 80's truck without rotted spring hangers, crossmembers, radiator support, etc. Get out of the rust belt or the maritimes and I think you'll find solid vehicles. I also didn't mean to poke at Vivek. I'm just saying that people will nit pick and waste my time when I'm completely upfront about condition. "as is" means just that. Don't come to me six months later when you get a flat tire that I told you was 15 years old... I don't play that game. If you want to come on my property and threaten me over some stupid ****, you are likely to wake up in hospital (if you DO wake up) You are fine, Jim. I just hope one of my brethren hadn't done you wrong on a past deal.. we can be gnarly negotiators Me... not so much. I couldn't probably negotiate a cost of living increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 You are fine, Jim. I just hope one of my brethren hadn't done you wrong on a past deal.. we can be gnarly negotiators Me... not so much. I couldn't probably negotiate a cost of living increase I've said before, your 'nation' is a conglomeration of dozens of countries with a common currency and president. When I think of hagglers I typically think of middle eastern and north Africans. And semites, but there's to be no discussion of politics or religion, so please ignore it as an observation, not any kind of judgement. You really ought to have a COLA as well as a "time served" raise incorporated into whatever contract you're obligated to. I can't imagine corporate work without one! But again, if I feel insulted by a negotiation I just walk out. I really don't care enough to 'deal' with people like that. Typically they come to find out when I'm working for the competition and eating their lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viven44 Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 I've said before, your 'nation' is a conglomeration of dozens of countries with a common currency and president. When I think of hagglers I typically think of middle eastern and north Africans. And semites, but there's to be no discussion of politics or religion, so please ignore it as an observation, not any kind of judgement. You really ought to have a COLA as well as a "time served" raise incorporated into whatever contract you're obligated to. I can't imagine corporate work without one! But again, if I feel insulted by a negotiation I just walk out. I really don't care enough to 'deal' with people like that. Typically they come to find out when I'm working for the competition and eating their lunch. You know more about 'my' nation than a lot of people that live there know about it.... it used to be different countries until a common 'enemy' came in and united it into one.... imagine putting all of europe into one country.... it is as diverse as Europe. I know very little about the next state over... I am married to an Arkansan and I've been here longer so I know more about 'Hillbilly' culture than I do my own to be honest. How many of my kind do you see messing with 460 big blocks. They probably will have a heart attack sitting in their Teslas if they knew I was driving around a 8mpg truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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