Gary Lewis

Interesting. Turns out all F-Series trucks used the same rear cab mounts.

Looks great, Stein! You are going to love it! I use the same approach for installing intakes. Usually does a good job of getting them down evenly w/o sliding them around. I'll bet you got it on nicely.

So your fuel pump is running when the engine is cranking. But the engine doesn't start? Do you know for sure that it is a fuel problem? What I would do next is to pull the fuel line off the carb, put it in a container, and jumper the Pk/Bk line to 12v. You should see fuel come out of the line into the container. If not, then you need to find out why. If fuel does come out into the container, proving that you are getting fuel to the carb, then you need to figure out why the engine won't start. I'd pull the air cleaner, prop the choke open, and look down the carb while opening the throttle briskly. Do you see two streams of gas squirt into the carb? If not then you have a carb problem. If you do see two streams squirt in then check to see if the choke is closing. It should close almost all the way in order to get the engine to start. If it does and the engine still won't start then maybe you have an ignition problem.

We didn't do that exact route, but we did go on all of those trails. Combining those would give about 48 miles in 8 hours, including 2.5 hours stopped for your proposed loop. Not a short day, but not ridiculous at all. And it does include some time for exploring.The drive to Lake Como from your route was only 1/2 mile and ~8 minutes (one way). Getting down to the top of the bypass is another 0.2 miles / 3 minutes (one way). And from there to The Wall took us about 25 minutes to go 0.6 miles (one way). Expect that last part to take you longer as that includes the toughest part of the trails out there not including The Wall or Black Bear. So you can see what those detours might take.I should mention that we didn't spend any time at Animas Forks on this trip. You probably will want to stop there for a while to look around, which will add some stopped time (unless you don't spend as much time at some of the stops we did make).Bob - Thanks for getting into all of the miles and times. That's a big help. And Gaia is pretty close to your miles at 44, but that doesn't include the 1 mile round trip to Lake Como. Anyway, the 8 hour figure is one of the keys as if we hit the road at 9 we could expect to be back at 5ish if we had no other stops. In other words, we have plenty of sunlight to check out other trails or just take in the scenery. But, let's talk about The Wall a bit. The map below is from Alltrails as it is easier to read than the Gaia one due to the colors. But note 2 says: After a long steep climb up a hill with very loose rock, bear right at an important fork. Straight soon dead-ends. But isn't there a bypass? The "straight" road isn't it? Anyway, please tell me more about The Wall. I think we will want to go down to it to check it out, but don't quite understand where to park and walk to do that.

Rollin', rollin'... see if you remember this, Gary. Yep, I remember it well. Rawhide!

I missed the crack! No way I'd pay that kind of money for one with a crack like that.

Heinz! Good to hear from you. How is Oberursel? Sorry that you are having that problem. I think you may have a problem with the tank selector valve. I've seen it before where it doesn't switch properly and returns fuel to the wrong tank. In the page below you can see that valve. So I would check to make sure it is getting the voltages it is supposed to get, although if the right pumps are working then it should be.

Larry - More bits and pieces. First, I do have the brackets for the grille and hood latch: And I do have an extra fan clutch, although it came from a 1990 F250 w/a 460 so should be an E9TZ 8A616-L. You can see the various part numbers at Documentation/Cooling System/COOLING FAN #'S & ILLUSTRATIONS, although that # isn't shown as it is for a later truck and I didn't include them. I can't say if it is good, nor if it'll even bolt up, but it is yours if you want it. Last, I have two shrouds, but one has a chunk out of it so I'm showing this one that has the tops of the bolt holes broken out. However, many of them are like that and the shrouds still work. Anyway, as shown in the pic on the left, the ID # is E0TA 8146-EF. That decodes, using the Rosetta Stone that Bill/Numberdummy gave me, to E0TZ 8146-C. But unfortunately by the time the '94 version of the 1980-89 MPC was published that part number had been replaced so you won't find it in Documenation/Cooling System/Shroud Part #'s. Given that I climbed to the Microfiche Tower and put in the 1982 MPC fiche. Sure enough it shows in that version and fits 1981 255's, 1980 302's, 1982 351W's, 1980-81 351M's, and 1980 - 82 400's. But apparently it isn't a perfect fit for a 300 Six, although I don't know why. However, it measures 28 3/8" wide and 22 1/4' high and has an opening of 21" high and 22" wide. (Yep, it isn't round.) So you can measure yours and see if it might fit.

Yippee! PROGRESS! Now, back to my decoding, climbing, etc.... (You'll see in a moment.)

PRETTY! And not much more then I paid for one just like it.

Nice! And not a bad price, either. You sure seem to be on a roll today...........

Ray! Good to hear from you! Hope you are having fun with your acreage. We miss you. And, if you get those schematics scanned you know where to bring them. I'd love to have them on here.

You are now on the map. Was through that area last October on the way to Estes Park. Boy, was it smoky! Yes, you are down low enough that 4wd wouldn't be needed. And that Subie should do well in the snow. We bought a 2001 Forester new, which our daughter still has, and it was amazing in the snow. (But not so good on head gaskets.)

I didn't think about it when I listed that number the other day, but the "A" in F0AZ does mean full sized Ford cars. And that's a good price, by the way.

Welcome, JC! Glad you joined. That's a really nice truck! I think you are going to like it. But a 2wd truck in CO? Speaking of CO, what part? I ask for two reasons. First, because we have a map (Bullnose Forum/Member's Map in the menu) and we can add you if we had a city or zip. Second, because I'll be in Ouray in two weeks with my '85.

LOL! I see what you mean about finding the trailhead in Telluride. Below is what Alltrails shows, and for anyone else reading this, that's downtown Telluride with 145 being the main street. On the brake, my overall gear ratio is 56:1, so maybe I could start the same way? I don't have the hand throttle but that 460 doesn't kill easily. And yes, you sent a link to that turn/switchback. That's the one I was thinking of where you have to almost hang the LF off the edge to have enough room to turn before hitting the rock. But, the solid front axle certainly turns shorter than the TTB's, so I do have an advantage. And with my bro having the handheld radio we should be able to negotiate that turn if other full-sized trucks have. Anyway, I'm not saying we will do Black Bear, but I do want to have that last day where we could.

Thanks, Randy! That's good to know.

Welcome! Glad you joined. Where's home? I ask because we have a map (Bullnose Forum/Member's Map in the menu) and we can add you with a city/state or zip. As for the truck, that does sound like a nice find! You'll have to post some pics. And you should start a thread about it in the main section or in Projects, your choice. You may be a candidate for a 3G alternator upgrade. You can read about that on our page at Documentation/Electrical/3G Conversion. One of the reasons I'd suggest it is because an '86 would have come from the factory with the 2G alternator, aka "firestarter". They had a poor design on the output terminals and those had a tendency to loosen up, which made a poor connection, which caused heat, which made the connection worse, which... You get the picture. The 3G replaced the 2G later and several of us have upgraded from the 1G, which was used through '85, or the 2G to the later unit. And the 3G will put out more current at idle than a 1 or 2G will at full tilt. So, since you don't have an alternator I'd suggest buying a 3G and making the conversion. We can talk you through it.

Ok, that sounds like a plan for Day 1. We'll do Ophir first as it will get us warmed up a bit given the loose shale at one point on a shelf road, but nothing to worry about at all. Then into Telluride for lunch, and back over Imogene. Or, is one way better than the other on Imogene? Then Engineer Mountain Road/Engineer Pass/Animas Cutoff/Hurricane/Corkscrew for Day 2. But we might go down Poughkeepsie and see The Wall to see if we want to come back there on Day 3. And for Day 4 there's still the possibility of Black Bear. But I'm not saying we are going to do that. One worry I have is the switchbacks. With the Bullnose trucks you have a foot pedal for the emergency brake, and the one on Big Blue is either off or on. So I'm wondering how "comfortable" it is going to be to hold the truck with the e-brake, come out a bit on the clutch so it won't roll, and then pop the e-brake off. I'm thinking of the turns I've seen where you have to get the front wheel ever so close to the edge in order to have enough room to effect a turn, and it is that which has me a bit un-nerved. I've enough though about using the chocks I have in front of the back wheels to make that safer. Thoughts?

That's a really nice Bronco. And it is outfitted pretty much as I'd want. But it is expensive!

That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for, Bob. Thanks! We will be 'wheeling for four days. So if Engineer Mountain Road off 550 is that tough then maybe we should go back to Plan A and use Last Dollar/Ophir Pass as Day 1 and this as Day 2. But, Ophir Pass doesn't have anything that is a challenge. Nothing tight/narrow, and no big rocks. In fact, while I did forget about a couple of switchbacks, they are just tight turns in fairly level ground. So that won't be doing much to get us ready for others. Given that, I wondered about other places to learn and use as Day 1 and thought of taking Imogene Pass into Telluride and then Ophir Pass back to 550. But Alltrails includes this about Imogene Pass: But your trip report said: So that doesn't sound all that bad for a Day 1. We could do Ophir Pass and get a bit of experience on a shelf road, then lunch in Telluride and take Imogene back to Ouray. As said, Last Dollar has minivans, so it won't teach us anything and was really just a way a pretty way to get to Telluride and then Ophir Pass.

Thanks! And you are now on the map.

Yippee! But please let me know from work.

Looking back a bit I hadn't really commented on this and I thought I should. Are the east sides of Cinnamon and Engineer Passes too easy and therefore boring? That depends on your perspective. I'm not the world's greatest rockcrawler, and my Bronco isn't the best off-road rig in the world. Not even close on either. But I've been doing this for quite a while and I'm pretty good at it. And my Bronco is a pretty capable vehicle. Lesley has been doing this with me too. So for us it was easy. But then again, on our last trip to Ouray we met a couple people in a side-by-side that had just come over Cinnamon Pass and said they had been pretty freaked out by it. So what was easy in our sight was kind of over-the-top (pun intended) for others. Compared to most trails it is pretty easy. But there are some narrow shelf sections and tight switchbacks, so I can see how people not accustomed to it could be scared.Is it boring? Lesley thought so, but again, a lot of people drive the Alpine Loop. It remains a popular trail, so others must not find it too boring. What's the truth? It's definitely a nice, scenic trail. But there are a lot of nice scenic trails in the Ouray area. I'm not saying it's boring, or not worth doing. But from my perspective there are other trails that are more worth doing, either because they are more challenging or because the scenery is more varied.And this is all based on driving part-way down, and then back up, the east side of Cinnamon Pass. I don't have any reason to believe it got to be more difficult, or more special scenery if I had gone farther, but I don't know that it didn't. And I haven't been on the east side of Engineer Pass, so I'm extrapolating quite a bit to lump it in with the east side of Cinnamon.So bottom line, I don't recommend the east side of those two passes, but that's just me. There are others who would tell you something completely different, and they're not wrong either. This is something else I meant to comment on. I did touch on Mineral Point above. I do think it's a worthwhile short detour if you are near it.Sherman Road is another thing entirely. For starters, it's quite a ways down the east side of Cinnamon Pass. If you aren't doing the Alpine Loop it probably adds at least 4 hours to your trip. Even if you are doing the Alpine Loop it still probably adds 1 - 2 hours. And I don't know if it's worth doing. It starts below tree-line and we turned around before we got above treeline. It wasn't a particularly interesting or scenic trail on the section we were on. It might have got a lot better had we kept going, but Lesley in particular was ready to be back on the west side of Cinnamon Pass so we turned around. It also might have some great camping spots if you were doing a trip that way, but we weren't and it sounds like you aren't, at least this time, either. So no, I definitely wouldn't make Sherman Road a goal on this trip if I were you. Again, not saying it's a bad trail, just probably not worth it for you on this trip.Bob - I didn't get to the mapping until just now. But I did change the previous map to cut out Poughkeepsie and go down Animas Cutoff as you suggested - I think. Right? I'm not saying that's what we are going to do, but I do want to get it to match your suggestions. And, I made it blue to represent a "moderate" trail, as opposed to Last Dollar Road where we found minivans. Would you agree with that as well? With the side trips to Mineral Point and Engineer Pass that's 43.7 miles. Is that reasonable to do in a day? Will we have time left over? Maybe we'd want to go have a look at The Wall and see Lake Como on the way. I'm thinking this might be a better Day 1 than Last Dollar Road & Ophir Pass. The only thing about that route is that Ophir has a shelf road which, from the bottom, looks dangerous. But when you get on it the thing is quite wide and there's nothing the least bit tough or challenging. You just drive slowly and stay on the trail and there are no switchbacks. So I'm now leaning to the route below as Day 1 as from what you've said it'll give more challenge than Ophir. Thoughts?

LOL! You didn't have to do this, but thanks. I guess that means you've at least had a chance to read the guidelines. And again, welcome!