Gary Lewis

80/86 F-U150/350 - - 4/W/D w/ratio adapter-w/factory installed speed control E0TZ 9A820-A Lower-#E0TA-AA-60" long

Yes, AP is Silver. But those were 1980-only letters.

Looking good, Scott!

Thanks, David! As for what I did today, I got the power steering cooler on. You can read all about it on the Hydroboost Planning thread if you want. But let's just say that I think I have a plan that will work.

Bummer! I hope that isn't the case here.

Got Shaun's 1980 Recreational Vehicles brochure on the site today. Go here: Documentation/Literature/1980 Literature and then click on the picture that looks like the one below. But I did it in pdf rather than jpg. What do you think?

The return labeled is printed for the Chevy line and the Superduty line is on order. Now I need to find someone that will put the fitting the new hose. IIRC I've had O'Reilly's here make hoses. Or was it Bumper To Bumper? Guess I need to talk to these folks and see.

The Chevy hose has a long metal tube down at the bottom that has all the wrong bends on it, so it isn't a good place to start. I think I'll return it and get the Superduty hose that goes to the C-II pump and then have a new fitting put on it. But I need to figure out what bends it ought to have in the metal tubing, so I put the bits and pieces together to see what would be needed. First, here are the lines connected to the booster. The low pressure return and the supply from the pump are the ones that came with the booster from the Superduty. The high pressure return is the new Superduty one. And this shows the lower end: And then here's the back of the pump. The red line shows what I'm thinking for the metal line to go to the pump's output, and there's plenty of room to make gentle bends. And, Jonathan, do you remember what the bracket circled in yellow goes to? And I installed the cooler off Huck: And here are the low pressure return lines. the return from the hydrobooster fits the Saginaw pump like it was made for it, and I'll install a tee as shown and connect the return from the cooler to it. The return line from the booster measures .388 ID and the one from the cooler measures .313". But a 3/8" barb fits perfectly.

It may have the same viscosity as 80w-90. But beyond that they are very different. 80w-90 has extreme pressure lubes in it that engine oil doesn't. And it is not harmful to soft metals, like the synchros in your tranny. I would NOT use motor oil in a transmission unless the manufacturer recommended it. And the specs sure don't call for it in the NP435. The oil that is recommended meets Ford ESP-M2C83-C specification. You can Google that and you'll find that it isn't motor oil by any stretch.

Yes, they are Styleside, which is a "99". I don't know if this is posted in the Documentation section. Does anyone know?

I wouldn't. ATF is the way to go. Very different lubes. And, is your "straight 50" gear lube or engine oil. Two very different things. I'd not put engine oil in my tranny.

So, there are at least two fittings for the Sag pump - flare and o-ring style. I don't remember off hand where I got the one for Dad's truck, but will look for what I said when I got it. But we know the one for the Superduty takes an o-ring. So now we need to decide on the best approach to get the right hose. Here are three different approaches, but I'm sure there are others. Please chime in: Use the flare fitting, either via using the pump that was for Dad's truck or swapping fittings. And then have a hose made with a flare on the bottom. That could be done via using the Superduty replacement hose like Alfie did. Stay with the o-ring fitting and have that style of end put on a new Superduty hose. Use the o-ring fitting and have a new fitting put on the top of the Chevy hose - assuming the Chevy hose will connect to the pump w/o a lot of re-bending, and I'll check that out after lunch......

Ok guys, the plot thickens. First, here's the fitting on the Sag for Dad's truck, which clearly takes a flare: And here's the fitting on the Sag from the '95 Superduty with a partial o-ring in it on the left, which is what was confusing me, and w/o it on the right. Obviously it takes a fitting with an o-ring on the end. Then here's the hose fitting that is needed, which is the end of the Chevy hose with the partial 0-ring dug out of the Sag fitting: Then here's the fitting on the C-II pump from the Superduty and the fitting on the hose that mated with it. I don't fully understand how this seals as the tip of the hose fitting is .250" OD at its smallest point and the hole in the pump's fitting is .1875". But, that's really not important as we've figured out what the Saginaw pumps I have need.

I have, and I have one I'm going to use on Big Blue. They are very good, and until someone pointed out that there was a cover on my first Bullnose I didn't know. But on Dad's truck I'll do the new pad.

No, you have to reply to someone's post. If you reply to any post other than the last one the system puts in text like "In reply to this post", but it doesn't if you reply to the last post. On the EFI, I anxious to see what you have. It is throttle body?

Welcome to the forum. I can tell that you were anxious to post that question, but the email you were sent specifically said "You will then be taken to the New Members Start Here folder where we ask you to start a new thread/topic in that folder about yourself and your truck." But it appears you did not do that. The reason we request that step is because that will bring you face to face with our guidelines, adherence to which is a requirement for being part of this forum. Others have been banned for not adhering and have said they didn't read them. So we want to ensure that you have had a chance to read them so that you don't get in that bind. Please go to the New Members Start Here folder, read the guidelines, and then introduce yourself and your truck. And once you've done that we can discuss the hydroboost question. I'm in the middle of my conversion on a 460 and can probably help.

Nice looking truck!

That is way cool! Please let us know if they use it, and I hope they do.

You tried the fancy rotation trick and it overlaid your text. Sorry, that happens. But I eliminated the pic in the quote so I could see the text. Wow, that's quite an accomplishment for one day! What EFI system are you going to use? And do you have just one tank or two? Nice!!!!

There are two options, as shown on this page from LMC, although the same things are available from other vendors. The Coverlay cover that glues on the existing pad. That's the one Jacob posted about and it runs $120 - 140 depending on the color. Dash pad, which is a complete replacement pad. And if I remember correctly they come from Just Dashes, and while LMC only shows them in black, Just Dashes makes them in several colors. And they are $420.

Oh! I misunderstood. Ok, I'll check out the one I built for Dad's truck. Perhaps it has a different fitting on it. But do you agree with me that it looks like the fittings in that pic should work together? Should I take more/better pics to help show them?

Myrl - Not only do I have Section R in my catalog, we have it on-line: Documentation/Exterior/Exterior Moulding Retainers Does that help? .

I don't know enough about hydraulic fittings to know what to call any of them. But the C-II appears to be flat. The Saginaw pump has an o-ring in it that apparently takes a tapered tip on the end of the fitting. And I think the two in this pic would work. But I want someone that knows about those kinds of things to confirm that before I try. But you've nixed what I was thinking about. I have the Sag I rebuilt for Dad's truck and wondered if it might have a different fitting. I think I'll still look, but you are saying the fittings don't interchange? So I'd have to use the whole pump?

Thanks! Also got a lot of the brochures and other doc's scanned. But it'll take a bit before I get them on.

Welcome to the forum. My email to you asked that you "go to the New Members Start Here folder, read the guidelines, and then start a new thread/topic in that folder about yourself and your truck." The reason for asking that of you is so that you have a chance to read the guidelines because you will be held to them. So please go do that. As for the vacuum lines, you haven't told us anything about your truck other than it is an '82. With vacuum lines under the dash I will assume that it has factory A/C. In that case the 1981 EVTM is probably what you need. It is located here: Documentation/Electrical/EVTM/1981 EVTM. Toward the bottom you'll see a section on Heating, Ventilation, and A/C. And a bit farther down there's Vacuum Distribution that might help.