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Ray Cecil

Re: GOOD GUY'S GARAGE

I'm heading out after work today to purchase a used 16' tandem axle car hauler. 7000# load cap. Then, this weekend, I will purchase a winch. I will use it to haul logs. I'll never put 7000# at a time on it.

What is the max tow cap on a 82 Flareside F150 4x4? I'll usually use the Silverado for retrieving logs, but I might use the mud terrains on the flareside to get into some tighter spots to pull logs out.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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Trailer weight spec's are here: Documentation/Specifications/Towing. I'd use the 1986 Towing Guide tab.

But you aren't going to like the #'s. The best with a manual is 3900 lbs, and that's with 4.10 gears, and I don't think that's what you have.

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

Gary Lewis

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In reply to this post by Ray Cecil

By the way, are you sure the 7000 lbs is the "load capacity"? I'd bet that's the axle ratings, as 3500 lb axles are common. But the trailer is going to be at least 2000 lbs, so the load capacity will be less than 5000 lbs - assuming those are 3500 lb axles.

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Ray Cecil

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You are right Gary. I think the sticker on the side says a gross weight of 7000 lbs.

Well anyways, I brought it home this afternoon. Glad to finally have my own trailer. Now I will probably wonder how I ever lived without it.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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Yeah, there are only about three axle capacities in use: 3500; 5500; and 7500. And most are 3500. Unfortunately, people don't understand that the trailer subtracts from the GVWR and usually badly overload trailers. But now that you know....

Anyway, you are going to love having a trailer.

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Ray Cecil

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Well, the trailer says 7000 gross. So, assuming 2000 for the trailer, I can haul a 5000lb vehicle or 5000lbs of logs. I once had an 1800lb log loaded onto my uncles car trailer. Had to get a bud's skid steer to load it.

Anyway, my neighbor owns a 190 acre beagle club in Buckner Kentucky. I was up there looking at all his dead Ash trees this past weekend. I'll be heading up there as soon as I get the trailer fitted.

He had 5 old dog kennels that were falling over with good tin roof panels on them. He said I could have the tin. So, I went up and got that this past weekend. I got 20 4'x8' panels, and 8 2'x8' panels.

I've got a couple of them just sitting up against the walls here. I am taking some insulation boards and putting them up behind the stove, then putting these old looking tin panels up over the insulation. This should make a pretty rustic looking heat shield behind the stove.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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What insulation are you going to use? I'm not sure how styrofoam would handle the heat as the panels will get pretty warm. But, it does handle hot coffee well, so...

But you might want to paint those panels a light or reflective color to keep them cooler. White works, as does silver. And gloss is best.

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Ray Cecil

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I will leave the panels as they are. I think they look pretty cool that way. I am going for "patina".

I am using a 1/2" Fiber Insulation board. Over top of that will be some 1" thick standoff wood strips to add a 1" layer of air between the tin and the insulation board. There will be space for the warm air behind the tin to move upwards and out the top. This will create some warm air drafting as well as keep the insulation board from getting too hot. The wall needs to breath. I do not want to trap any moisture in there. Warm moist air back there and a cold panel on the exterior = condensation and corrosion.

The key is to keep the warm air off the cold panel. I'll make sure that happens.

I have felt lined roof panels, so it won't rain inside the barn.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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That sounds like a good plan.

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Ray Cecil

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One thing I should change, I should move the stove away from the wall a little more.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Ray Cecil

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Alright. Going all in on concrete.

Ive got mesh, rebar, rebar chairs, ties, 2x4s for forms, vapor barrier, and I shot elevations yesterday.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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Cool! You are really going to like the new floor. 👍

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Ray Cecil

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Also, I know a guy in construction business. He is writting off 100 sheets of 4'x12' durock. Giving me as much as I want!!! So, I will be trying to find some insulation after the concrete and finish the walls out as soon as I can.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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The insulation will make a huge difference. I had fiberglass blown in, which stops infiltration much better than batts. But foam is even better.

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Ray Cecil

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Foam is pricey, but since I am saving a lot on concrete and durock, I will go ahead and do it.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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Yes, foam is more. But closed-cell foam has 3x the insulation value of fiberglass and no infiltration.

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Ray Cecil

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Ok, figured I would update the garage thread. So, the free durock turned out to be fiberock....I misspoke earlier.

12' sheets of 5/8" fiberock. I got 24 sheets on the trailer and it was screaming at me. Going back to get more tomorrow. Getting a total of 96 sheets!!!

Also, scratch the foam board. Same guy is giving me 6" thick insulation. I think its called woolrock or something like that.

So this friend of my father, his company is a supplier of drywall and insulation. He had customers who over ordered stuff and never collected it. Thats why he is giving it away. I think there are about several guys getting enough of this stuff to finish their man caves!!

Anyway, I might call my uncle who is an electrician and see if he can help me wire up this pole barn before I get busy insulating and finishing.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Ray Cecil

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Merry Christmas me....

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

Gary Lewis

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You hit the jackpot!!!!

The shop is going to be transformed.

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Ray Cecil

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Ive got an uncle who is an electrician, he said he would help me get it wired up. So that is the next thing.

1988 F250 Supercab Longbed 7.3 IDI, C6, 1356, GEARVENDORS, 4.10 Sterling with autolocker

1986 F150 302, C6, 9" 2.75, Wood Flatbed

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