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Note on the Engines/Starters page that Ford used that kit on all engines up to and including the 351W from 1980 on to convert to the recommended replacement PMGR starter.

That kit's instructions change the wiring to what is shown on the Electrical/PMGR Wiring page.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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grumpin
Gary Lewis wrote
Note on the Engines/Starters page that Ford used that kit on all engines up to and including the 351W from 1980 on to convert to the recommended replacement PMGR starter.

That kit's instructions change the wiring to what is shown on the Electrical/PMGR Wiring page.
I did not realize this was not available or recommended on the 460 and diesel.
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Gary Lewis
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Ford didn't do it, at least as a retrofit on the Bullnose trucks for the larger engines.  I don't know about later.  However, I'm running a PMGR starter on my truck, and I think both Jim and Bill are on their 460's as well.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: Electric starter conversion kit [F2PZ-11K162-A]

grumpin
Gary Lewis wrote
Ford didn't do it, at least as a retrofit on the Bullnose trucks for the larger engines.  I don't know about later.  However, I'm running a PMGR starter on my truck, and I think both Jim and Bill are on their 460's as well.
Good to know, thanks!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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grumpin
Well made them an offer of $15 and they accepted.

There's one more left if anybody is interested. Free shipping.

If I'm correct I could just get the same starter that's in my 92 Bronco, 351.
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Gary Lewis
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Glad you got it, but you don't mean use a 351W starter on a 460 do you?  I don't think that will work as they are two different part numbers.  But, maybe I've misunderstood?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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grumpin
I don't know which starter part number to use on a 460.

You're not misunderstood I am. Actually I was thinking weird there!

So a starter from a 92 460?
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Gary Lewis
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Starters are here: Engines/Starters.  It looks like an E1TF 11001-CA for the 460.

As for the '92 460, they may have changed starters by then.  But Huck, the 1990 half-truck didn't have a PMGR starter on his 460.  And my catalog stops in '89.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: Electric starter conversion kit [F2PZ-11K162-A]

grumpin
Gary Lewis wrote
Starters are here: Engines/Starters.  It looks like an E1TF 11001-CA for the 460.

As for the '92 460, they may have changed starters by then.  But Huck, the 1990 half-truck didn't have a PMGR starter on his 460.  And my catalog stops in '89.  
That's not a PMGR starter is it? I think I'm really getting confused!

What PMGR starter would I use on my 1986 460?

Or am I way off course on this, thinking you install a PMGR starter?
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Gary Lewis
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Yes, I have a PMGR starter on Big Blue.  But it isn't one from Ford.  It is aftermarket, and I'd have to check to see what brand.  But there are several people making/selling them for the 460.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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grumpin
OK, thanks Gary!

My rememberer isn't top notch anymore!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Gary Lewis
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I think my rememberer used to be better - but I really can't remember.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI