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81f100custom

Certification Label Info

I have researched my cert label and seemed to have been able to figure it all out from the Specifications tab up top but these two sets of numbers seem to be a mystery. Anyone else have one similar with letters and numbers in that area that may know what they represent? F0196, T0677

Eddie,
81 F100 Custom SWB, 5.0L, 4x2, Single Rail Four-Speed Overdrive, 3.00 Non-Limited Slip Rear Axle, Non A/C truck to complete 85 F150 factory A/C conversion, Nutmeg interior color.

Gary Lewis

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I don't know is the honest answer.

However, if you look at our page on Documentation/Specifications/DSO Codes you'll see that special order codes are supposed to be 6 digits long and yours are 5. Plus, the first two digits are supposed to be the # of the district sales office from which the vehicle was ordered. And since one is F0 and one is T0 then it can't be special order codes.

However, if you look at the bottom of the page you'll see pics you can click on. One of those shows an example of codes in that box being the "Accessory Reserve Load" and it shows that the codes will be FO for Front and RO for Rear. I'm wondering if yours is Front and Total.

Then yours has "260397" which would fit with a special order, and the district sales office would be New Orleans.

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81f100custom

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Yes I have the Ford sheet and it is a special order 0397 and I came to the same conclusion it was New Orleans also but the ones above it had me stumped. I did go back and look and found what you where referring to and got to say I have not a clue what a reserve load would be or how the numbers listed play into that.

Eddie,
81 F100 Custom SWB, 5.0L, 4x2, Single Rail Four-Speed Overdrive, 3.00 Non-Limited Slip Rear Axle, Non A/C truck to complete 85 F150 factory A/C conversion, Nutmeg interior color.

Rembrant

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81f100custom wrote

Anyone else have one similar with letters and numbers in that area that may know what they represent? F0196, T0677

They represent the front axle reserve capacity in pounds, and the total vehicle reserve capacity in pounds.

Think of it like this: The reserve capacity of the axles is the amount (in weight) that can be permanently added to the truck, before it would be considered to be over its rated empty capacity. For the guys like me with a little 2wd Flareside, you wonder what in the heck would anybody add to the front axle??...But it is referring to things like aftermarket bumpers, bush bars, winches, snow plows, etc. Total vehicle could be something like a ladder rack or boat rack, headache rack, tool box, etc.

It's the way all manufacturers rate their vehicles. If your front axle reserve capacity is only 27 lbs (like it is on my 1984 Flareside), then I couldn't install a 150 lb bumper and then go complain to the Ford dealer about unusual tire wear on the front end. They'd look at my truck and say warranty denied.

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

Gary Lewis

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Cory - Where did you find that illustration? We have several on the page linked to above, but that is the best I've seen. May I use it?

And do you which trucks got the info there? Was it just trucks that were already close to the limit?

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85lebaront2

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Gary, FWIW, Darth has F0335 and T0270 then 23 under those two in that block.

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Rembrant

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Gary,

They are snips from my 1984 FSM. I can get you better ones out of the 85 FSM, it is much clearer, like a modern PDF. I just have a habit of going to my ‘84 manual. Not sure which trucks showed this rating...maybe just the lighter trucks? Are the numbers not present on the 250’s?

I bet if you look in a newer F150 owners manual or info packet you will see more details on this axle reserve capacity weight rating. There is a little blurb about it in my 1980 manual, I think that’s the only one I have.

Rembrant

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85lebaront2 wrote

Gary, FWIW, Darth has F0335 and T0270 then 23 under those two in that block.

That’s odd that the total is less than that of the front.

grumpin

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Rembrant wrote

That’s odd that the total is less than that of the front.

Mine is the same way, 204 and 147. It is odd.

Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
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Gary Lewis

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This is bizarre. BB's label says F0403 and T0157. Like Darth's, the total is less, far less, than the front. And here are the appropriate pages from the '85 owner's guide.

So, what am I missing here?

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Rembrant

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grumpin wrote

Rembrant wrote

That’s odd that the total is less than that of the front.

Mine is the same way, 204 and 147. It is odd.

And my little 84 Flareside is way lopsided the other way. It’s like 27 lbs for the front and 635 lbs total.

Gary Lewis

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85lebaront2

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Darth's is the same way, GVWR is 10,000 lbs. front GAWR is 3900 lbs. rear GAWR is 7400 lbs. giving a total of 11,300 lbs. ???

Now though BB has 1 ton front springs and axle, I wonder what the front value was for that combination? It is very interesting. I will have to get the set that stays in Darth and look at all 3 (86 F350 CC DRW 2WD 460/C6, 90 F250 SC LB 2WD 460/E4OD and 96 F350 CC DRW 2WD PSD/E4OD) I do have a picture of the 1996 cert label.

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Rembrant

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Gary Lewis wrote

Would have been a heck of a thing to put 600+ lbs on it and then drive around with no swaybars and the little 215 tires. It was sketchy enough to drive empty that way LOL.

81f100custom

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My manual has that same view that Rembrant shows up above but as you can see in mine they omitted that bit of info which is what made me wonder. Learn something new everyday it seems. It would have been nice if they could have gotten together and put all this info out there in all the manuals instead of parts and pieces here and there. Thanks for all the info.

Eddie,
81 F100 Custom SWB, 5.0L, 4x2, Single Rail Four-Speed Overdrive, 3.00 Non-Limited Slip Rear Axle, Non A/C truck to complete 85 F150 factory A/C conversion, Nutmeg interior color.

Gary Lewis

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I think what we are missing is that Ford knew the base weight of vehicles and how that was distributed over the axles. And then they added the weight of each accessory that was ordered with the vehicle, using the table below. And somehow that was represented on the certification label.

But what I'm seeing doesn't make sense, at least to me. Can someone help me? If we can sort it I could add the explanation and this document to the web page.

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81f100custom

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I just went and looked in my 81 owners manual and yep its in there like what Gary has posted above. I would have never thought the owners manual would have had more info than the shop manual but its there non the less. Should have looked in there first but just never crossed my mind to do so.

Eddie,
81 F100 Custom SWB, 5.0L, 4x2, Single Rail Four-Speed Overdrive, 3.00 Non-Limited Slip Rear Axle, Non A/C truck to complete 85 F150 factory A/C conversion, Nutmeg interior color.