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Rembrant

1986 F150 Supercab on Ebay - Trivia question...

Came across this '86 F150 on Ebay, but something isn't right.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204112597288?hash=item2f860f1128%3Ag%3AoTMAAOSwcldjMwCh&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5337650957&customid=&toolid=10049

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

Gary Lewis

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What's not right? The gray interior with the red? The way too long upper radiator hose? The new master cylinder?

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

Rembrant

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Gary Lewis wrote

What's not right? The gray interior with the red? The way too long upper radiator hose? The new master cylinder?

The Supercab rear window is from a 1992-1996 F series. Bullnose has the two narrow windows. I probably wouldn't have noticed but Scott pointed it out one time on a truck that had been Bullnose swapped. I'm not an expert on Supercabs though, so maybe I'm crazy and one of you will correct me. The ad says the truck is all original though, so who knows.

Gary Lewis

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Interesting! I didn't catch that, although I do remember Scott pointing it out, now that you mentioned it.

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kramttocs

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Hmmm

I've never inspected a later model to look at how the glass hooks in and if it's [easily] swappable.
Wish they showed more of the interior to see if it has the 3pt seatbelts in the back or the corner speakers. They would have had to do some interior trim changes since the 86 plastic would have the window divider built in.
If they did a full cab swap, it looks like a well done job from the photos at least.

Good eye!

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio

salans7

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There are not enough photos to be able to conclusively tell what is going on here. I can verify that the doors are definitely bullnose, but I'm suspicious about the cab. The bottom corner below the striker looks more like an 87-96 cab. I don't know enough about Bullnose supercabs to make that call though.

The rear bumper is 1987-1991.

The wiper motor is bullnose, and from my own experience they do not just bolt in to a 1987-1996 cab. You have to modify the firewall to accept the older wiper motor.

The firewall has the hole for computer wiring, so this was more than likely an EFI truck. But since the computer moved to the driver's kick panel in 1987, this would mean the cab is a bullnose cab.

Gary Lewis

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I think all the cabs from around '84 had the hole for the computer wiring. Big Blue, which came with the 460, had that hole as that's where I ran the wiring when I went EFI.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

kramttocs

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I was looking at that b pillar also. Looks like that bulge for the seatbelt release thing is there.

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio

salans7

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Gary Lewis wrote

I think all the cabs from around '84 had the hole for the computer wiring. Big Blue, which came with the 460, had that hole as that's where I ran the wiring when I went EFI.

I think it was whenever they started the computer-controlled ignition/feedback carbs. I seem to remember my 1982 parts truck having a slim computer under the seat, so it may have even been then.

Either way, I think that hole went away by 1987 because my 1990 doesn't have it.

Gary Lewis

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Good point. The '82 cab I put on Dad's truck has a round hole, but by the time they got really serious the hole had evolved to an oval, like on Big Blue. (Which may be a problem 'cause on Big Blue I wired the connector for the ECU and passed it through the larger hole. But that's not going to happen with the smaller hole, so I may have to open it up.)

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Rembrant

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salans7 wrote

The firewall has the hole for computer wiring, so this was more than likely an EFI truck. But since the computer moved to the driver's kick panel in 1987, this would mean the cab is a bullnose cab.

That oval hole was there even without EFI. Without EFI or feedback carb, there was usually just a rubber plug in it. My '84 had it, and I want to say they showed up in 1983, or it was a mid-year change in 1983. But yes, definitely gone in 1987.

I think it's a Bullnose cab with the 92-96 windows somehow grafted on. The ad says it's original paint, but there are no fender badges, and no holes either, so aftermarket fenders likely.

Oddly though...the cab looks like it has the high tunnel cover that showed up in 1988 with the 5spds. Maybe not, but that's what it looks like. If he swapped in a later model carpet, he probably had to also swap in the taller tunnel cover.

I dunno. Oh well, something changed somewhere along the line;).

kramttocs

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Rembrant wrote

The ad says it's original paint, but there are no fender badges, and no holes
either, so aftermarket fenders likely.

Does that look like clear coat peeling though? As opposed to patina/weathering? Hard to tell on my phone.
Also, the bottom lip of the tailgate isn't red.

Also hard to say if the firewall is the same red. Almost looks like a Med Canyon vs Light but too many other factors to really say.
We need a door sticker!

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio

salans7

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Rembrant wrote

salans7 wrote

The firewall has the hole for computer wiring, so this was more than likely an EFI truck. But since the computer moved to the driver's kick panel in 1987, this would mean the cab is a bullnose cab.

That oval hole was there even without EFI. Without EFI or feedback carb, there was usually just a rubber plug in it. My '84 had it, and I want to say they showed up in 1983, or it was a mid-year change in 1983. But yes, definitely gone in 1987.

I mainly put EFI assuming it was a carb swapped 302. But upon further reading the ad, I realized it said 351 HO, which obviously didn't come with EFI on a bullnose.