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C.Jett

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1985 F150 powersteering flood. Placed truck on jack stands, removed wheels to clean and paint to install shocks. Turned wheels to the right,did cleaning,turned to the left to finish cleaning and powersteering fluid goes everywhere. WHY?? It came out of the top of reservoir. CJ

Gary Lewis

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Because. Because you have a C-II power steering pump. Because Ford cheaped out on them. Because you should install a Saginaw pump. Because.

Seriously, that is a known problem with the C-II pump. If you turn the wheel with the engine off it sprays fluid through the itty bitty vent hole in the cap all over the engine compartment. Been there and had the mess to prove it.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

grumpin

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Yup, I did that too!

Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona

ArdWrknTrk

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In reply to this post by Gary Lewis

Yup.
These trucks have their idiosyncrasies.

90% are going to have atf and dust caked all over the underside of the hood on the driver's side.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

C.Jett

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Thanks Guys, understand now, but how do I explain to wife it’s Ford’s fault the driveway is a mess? Don’t let me down now. Lord Mr. Ford ! CJ

AmericanSavage

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In reply to this post by Gary Lewis

Gary,

I still pine longingly for the Saginaw, but the c2 is running fine….for the moment.

1980 Ford XLT F350
400 Engine (rebuilt to 406)
Holley 2300 500 CFM manual Choke Carb
Under Restore (1st time)

ArdWrknTrk

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C2 is not a 'bad' pump.
It just whines, growls and pees with the engine off.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

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Lol. Yes, it does all of those things, but it tends to keep on keeping on, regardless. So if it is working then there's no serious need to replace it.

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85lebaront2

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Gary, the humorous part of this is my Chrysler Lebaron. Most of the K-cars and their "offspring" use a Saginaw pump. On a 4 cyl engine it is a big beast and is a royal PITA to remove or replace without taking other parts off first.

The J body Lebarons seem to have, at least on the turbo models, used a ZF pump that is considered "non-serviceable". They are available rebuilt and are fairly easy to convert to a remote reservoir if desired. The other nice difference is belt tension adjustments. The Saginaw has a tab with a 1/2" square hole so adjusting the belt tension is a two handed job, the ZF has a nice threaded adjusting link so it can be easily done with one hand.

Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413