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Rembrant

Re: Trans swap?

blackdog wrote

The shifter has the encircled "D" for od.. will this still be able to bolt onto my 302 with the 50 oz 164 toothed flywheel?

If the trans is currently bolted to a 300/6, then yes it will definitely bolt up to the 302. The only issue is that you cannot use the 300/6 flywheel on the 302. If the 302 is 1983 or newer, then it should require a 50oz balanced flywheel.

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

blackdog

Re: Trans swap?

Awesome. Anyone have any experience with these Clark transmissions? Pros cons etc?

On Feb 4, 2019 6:04 PM, "Rembrant [via Bullnose Enthusiasts]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

blackdog wrote

The shifter has the encircled "D" for od.. will this still be able to bolt onto my 302 with the 50 oz 164 toothed flywheel?

If the trans is currently bolted to a 300/6, then yes it will definitely bolt up to the 302. The only issue is that you cannot use the 300/6 flywheel on the 302. If the 302 is 1983 or newer, then it should require a 50oz balanced flywheel.
In rehab: 1984 F150 2wd Flareside pickup. Original 302 with GT40 heads, Comp Cam XE256H, Holley 4bbl, and BBK shorty headers. M5OD-R2 5spd trans swap. Plain Jane with no A/C and no radio.

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blackdog

Re: Trans swap?

I have found hardly anything on the interwebs about this transmission

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019, 7:05 PM blackdog [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email] wrote:

Awesome. Anyone have any experience with these Clark transmissions? Pros cons etc?

On Feb 4, 2019 6:04 PM, "Rembrant [via Bullnose Enthusiasts]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

blackdog wrote

The shifter has the encircled "D" for od.. will this still be able to bolt onto my 302 with the 50 oz 164 toothed flywheel?

If the trans is currently bolted to a 300/6, then yes it will definitely bolt up to the 302. The only issue is that you cannot use the 300/6 flywheel on the 302. If the 302 is 1983 or newer, then it should require a 50oz balanced flywheel.
In rehab: 1984 F150 2wd Flareside pickup. Original 302 with GT40 heads, Comp Cam XE256H, Holley 4bbl, and BBK shorty headers. M5OD-R2 5spd trans swap. Plain Jane with no A/C and no radio.

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1986F150Six

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My 1986 F150 and 4.9L engine has the 4 speed manual OD.

blackdog

Re: Trans swap?

Any complaints? Have you ever rebuilt it ?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 1:16 PM 1986F150Six [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email] wrote:

My 1986 F150 and 4.9L engine has the 4 speed manual OD.

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1986F150Six

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This transmission is not recognized as being as HD as the T18 or T19, but has served me well. I have a little over 210K miles and it is still quiet and shifts easily [truck like; not speed shifting]. My son's 1984 F150 is similarly equipped with 245K miles. The input shaft bearing has been replaced on his and his transmission makes a little noise.

In my opinion, the transmission is just fine if not abused.

blackdog

Re: Trans swap?

Thanks!

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019, 2:08 PM 1986F150Six [via Bullnose Enthusiasts] <[hidden email] wrote:

This transmission is not recognized as being as HD as the T18 or T19, but has served me well. I have a little over 210K miles and it is still quiet and shifts easily [truck like; not speed shifting]. My son's 1984 F150 is similarly equipped with 245K miles. The input shaft bearing has been replaced on his and his transmission makes a little noise.

In my opinion, the transmission is just fine if not abused.

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Johns3524

I dont believe its a Clark

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Ford F834

Re: I dont believe its a Clark

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Johns3524 wrote

I've always felt that the trans that is on Gary's list (Clark) has to be a misprint..Unless back in the day they did refer to the various rug 170's as clarks.

They may have come with a Clark, but this particular 4spd OD I believe must be a RUG 170 variant If anyone actually has found a Clark 4 or 5 speed in one these trucks of our vintage please speak up and share the bell housing and clutch arrangement with us. These are rare installs in our trucks I believe.

I concur with 1986f150six, after having owned two of these I would use it for sure..Good luck

I’ve always seen these referenced as Tremec transmissions... 🤷‍♂️ I don’t think they are related in any way to Clark, but I may be way wrong.

SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2

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blackdog

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Hmm... I seem to have the strangest luck. of course the manual trans I find happens to be an oddball! I guess we can only wait for me to pull it and get some numbers off of it. Will post updates Monday after my brother and I pull it on sunday

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blackdog

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so would i be keeping bellhousing from aod? or should i remove bellhousing from the 4sp when i drop the trans?

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Frank Wyatt

Re: Trans swap?

The AOD doesn't have a removable bell housing.

1981 F 150 Custom 300 ci with a fully rebuilt 1968 240 head Carter YFA T-18 3.25 9" rear 2WD
dual gas tanks
1990 Lincoln Town Car 5.0 AOD
Home town Mc Kenzie, TN

blackdog

Re: Trans swap?

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blackdog

Re: Trans swap?

update:

i finally got the trans out a couple weeks ago, and today i removed clutch housing and pressure plate/clutch disc. tomorrow i'll grab the flywheel and finish pulling the wiring harnesses out, and i'll only need to have the windshield swapped to my truck and i will be able to have this thing off to scrapyard. it pains me a bit to be scrapping one of these, but it has to happen. i have to learn to weld before i get my next one...

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Gary Lewis

Re: Trans swap?

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Isn't it amazing how many parts there are to remove when parting one of these trucks out? I think I've parted my last one out. I believe I've done 3 of them.

Anyway, you are making progress.

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
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Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI