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Power Steering Return Rubber Hose Size?

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Quarterwave

Re: Power Steering Return Rubber Hose Size?

Hi Gary,

I've sprayed the hose contact points with parts cleaner and also where the hoses join into the pump but by the time I get to look at it, it's already leaking and hard to tell where it's coming from. Mind you, I'm having to turn the wheel a few times, then run out and look under the hood, as I'm doing it all by myself.

I might just spring for the Saginaw unit and new hoses and hopefully, be done with it.

Question - will this unit work and the hoses in the order fit with our standard steering box?

https://www.jegs.com/i/Borgeson/153/800330K/10002/-1

If so, can anyone advise what size belt I'll also need, please?

1985 Ford F150, 2WD.
351 H.O Windsor, aluminum heads
Cam: Lift = .496''/.520'' Duration @ .050: 224°/234°
C6 Transmission
6" Rough Country Lift
33x12.5x15 BF Goodrich All-Terrains
15x10" Pro Comp Rims

Gary Lewis

Re: Power Steering Return Rubber Hose Size?

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I've tied shop towels or paper towels around things that appear to leak. Keep them slightly apart and you can usually tell from whence the leak comes.

But, I don't know if that pump kit will work. The pump itself should as the engine is essentially he same. But, I don't know if the hoses will work. Maybe someone else does?

As for a belt, I don't know that we can tell because we don't know the source of the bracket, and I would think that would determine the necessary belt length.

But, why not get a the necessary pieces from an E-Series van?

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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
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Gary Lewis

Re: Power Steering Return Rubber Hose Size?

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In reply to this post by Quarterwave

Doing some re-reading of what I've seen before, and thought you might like to see these threads:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1269509-300-4-9l-saginaw-ps-pump-swap-question.html Don't miss the link in this one to SuperMotors

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1267599-saginaw-p-s-pump-questions.html This one has a link as well

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1173982-ford-saginaw-power-steering-pump-conversion.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1021533-saginaw-p-s-pump-conversion.html

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Quarterwave

Re: Power Steering Return Rubber Hose Size?

Thanks for sharing Gary, much appreciated.

I will check them out!

Ford F834

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In reply to this post by Quarterwave

I have no doubt that the Borgeson products are top notch, but wow. That’s pricey and I would argue unnecessarily so. As Gary said, van parts are fairly readily available. The Saginaw pressure line is different, but not expensive.

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STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

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Quarterwave

Re: Power Steering Return Rubber Hose Size?

Yes, I agree.

I think I'm going to do what Gary recommended and wrap each hose-outlet in a paper towel to determine exactly where the leak is.

If it's coming from the "spout" on the return line due to the hose not being correctly re-installed after a mechanic pulled my engine for head work (which I have a suspicion it is), I'll order some 3/8" fuel hose and double clamp it on the existing steel line.

If it's leaking from the actual reservoir due to a crack, then I'll look at the Saginaw exchange unit - either from Borgeson or possibly from other vendors. It just seemed that despite the cost, the Borgeson(?) unit had all the stuff I need for a more-simple installation - the bracket, the pulley, the hoses and so on... all of which is about 30 years old on my truck...

Gary Lewis

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Good plan but for the fuel hose. They make an oil hose rated for hot oil, and that's what I'd use.

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Quarterwave

Re: Power Steering Return Rubber Hose Size?

Ok, thanks Gary - 3/8" oil hose for hot oil it is.