Park Brake Cable changes from Bullnose to Aeronose?

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Park Brake Cable changes from Bullnose to Aeronose?

Rembrant
Hey guys,

Just doing a little research and I'm curious if anybody happens to know what the difference is between 1980-1991 cables, and 1992-1996 cables. What I'm wondering is, can I connect a 1980-1991 front cable to 1992-1996 set of rear cables. What it comes down is the differences between items #8 and #10 below:



I actually should have these parts to compare, but I won't know for sure until the weekend or maybe earlier. I took apart the 1980 and 1995 F150's, but I can't remember if I saved these parts from either one. I should have, but don't know that I did.

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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I sure don't know.  I've had no experience with the later rear brake systems and my catalogs don't go past '89.  Sorry.
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kramttocs
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I'd be surprised if you couldn't. At the very least you should be able to use the equalizer from the 95 and the adjusting rod from the 80. Whenever I buy replacement rear cables from the local parts store I never know if I'll get a hex or round ferrule but both have always worked.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

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Rembrant
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I'd be surprised if you couldn't. At the very least you should be able to use the equalizer from the 95 and the adjusting rod from the 80. Whenever I buy replacement rear cables from the local parts store I never know if I'll get a hex or round ferrule but both have always worked.
Ya, my thoughts exactly. I looked this morning and I don't have the parts, I must have gotten rid of them when I scrapped the 1980 frame, and when I sold the 1995 cab I think the front cable was still attached to it. Anyway, I'll order the 1995 equalizer and the 1980 adjusting rod so I can run the 1980 front cable with the 1995 rear cables. It will either work or I'll make it work lol.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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kramttocs
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Sounds like a plan to me
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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85lebaront2
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Ok, on Darth when I redid the brakes and inside the cab, I think I kept the 1986 rear cables, but may have used the ones on the 1993 rear axle, let me see if the pictures show anything.

I used the late parking brake pedal as it and the steering column support have to be used as a pair. I did find that on the 1994-96/7 trucks the pedal assembly and front cable are common to all wheelbase lengths, there is an extension cable used on the longer wheelbase trucks.

I used the cables that came with the 1993 axle and the later equalizer bar (without the built in cushion spring). One item, the 1994 up pedal assembly is self adjusting and if you do not lock the adjuster before removing the cable you are in for a fight.
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Rembrant
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I found this equalizer bar in the bottom of a box of parts on the weekend. I guess I didn't throw it away after all. I'm pretty sure it is from the 1980 frame/chassis as it had the two rear cable ends still in it when I found it, and the same two cable ends are still intact on the 1995 frame. I checked fitment with the 1995 cables, and it seems like it fits just fine, so I'm still not sure what the difference is between the older version and later version.



I am going to check another parts box, but it is possible that I still have these parts from the 1995 chassis. It would be unusual for me to throw these away, but I ripped these trucks apart pretty quickly, so anything is possible.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Yes, that looks like the one from the 80's trucks.  I took one of those apart and powder coated it.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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myrl883
The adjuster (2K389) was only used through '91. '92 and newer trucks have an auto adjuster built into the pedal, so the threaded adjuster is no longer used. The equalizer is different because of this as well. Most of the rear cables are the same.

Your '80 adjuster and '95 equalizer won't play well together. The '95 equalizer joins 3 cable ferules.
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1981 F100 Flareside - Black, 302-4V Roller/AOD
1986 F150 Flareside - Medium Fire Red 302/AOD
1989 F150 Standard Cab 4x4 - Dk Shadow Blue 302/AOD
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Rembrant
myrl883 wrote
The adjuster (2K389) was only used through '91. '92 and newer trucks have an auto adjuster built into the pedal, so the threaded adjuster is no longer used. The equalizer is different because of this as well. Most of the rear cables are the same.

Your '80 adjuster and '95 equalizer won't play well together. The '95 equalizer joins 3 cable ferules.
Ahhh, OK, so that's what the difference was. Thanks for clearing that up myrl883! All I want to do is use the 1980 adjuster with the 1995 rear cables, and from what I looked at it seems like it should work OK.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995