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Keeping Aluminum Looking New

Machspeed
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I just recently installed an aluminum bodied master cylinder and will be installing a new alternator. I'm kind of a clean/neat freak and would like to maintain a nice new look on these aluminum items. I've looked at the web and there does not seem to be a consensus there, wondering if you gents may have some input?
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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ArdWrknTrk
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If it's not polished just use Alumabrite.
It gets corrosion off window screens and stuff.
Truckers use the same sort of acid solution to keep trailers looking clean, but you don't need a 5gal.
pail for a master cylinder.

Light oil (NOT silicone!) will keep corrosion out of the pores at bay.
The same WD-40 you used on the electric connector is exactly what it was developed for.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Machspeed
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Jim, I'm talking new parts such as my alternator right out of the box. Don't really need to clean anything, just protect from corrosion and the nasty look aluminum gets when it's weathered over time. Thanks buddy!    
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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ArdWrknTrk
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I understand John.  

With the Mag-chloride brine they spread on the roads up here some corrosion is unavoidable (unless you don't drive in winter)

Oil gets into pores and if filled won't allow water.

Look up the history of the Rocket Chemical Company.
It's interesting to a rocket geek like me.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Rembrant
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I would probably keep them clean if possible, although I have never cleaned mine...lol. My truck only goes out in the nice weather though, so it doesn't see any kind of daily driver type usage. All of our old toothbrushes go to my toolbox and they're great for cleaning stuff like a master cylinder.

PS: While on the topic of cast aluminum, I have refinished some of my other cast aluminum parts using cast aluminum engine paint:

https://www.napacanada.com/en/p/NPOCDE1650

I find this stuff to be outstanding! Paint everything with this stuff in cast aluminum or in the different versions of black, and so far it has been standing up quite nicely.

Here is my power steering bracket as it was when I bought the truck:



And here it is after I cleaned it up (wire wheel in my drill) and cast aluminum paint with a new pump:




I didn't take any pics, but I also painted my old 34 year old alternator (now 37 I guess). Just wire wheeled it, and spray painted and it looked like a million bucks.

Here is my aluminum cased 5spd before and after:




Anyway...sorry for the long thread. I haven't really put much effort into keeping new aluminum clean, but I've spent a lot of hours making old cast aluminum look new again.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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ArdWrknTrk
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Cory, you've got a good plan!  

Keeping oxygen from reacting with the aluminum is the key.

Gary's 'Silver Lining's powdercoat looks great!
For parts that can't take the heat (or those of us without the facility) aluminum engine paint is much better than clearcoat. AMHIK.  
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Rembrant
Ha! Notice I even said wire wheel and not sand blast? My method is just a quick and dirty way to make a scuzzy old part look like new. The engine paint dries quick and lasts well. It double the price of a regular spray bomb, but worth it.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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ArdWrknTrk
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I've got an electric toothbrush but I'm thinking hard about upgrading and relegating this one to cleaning things.
Like the hard to reach grout behind the faucet and that damned carb bowl from last week.  đŸ’¡



 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Machspeed
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Yeah Corey, I used that same cast aluminum on my intake manifold and, as you did, on my power steering bracket. I'd use it on my alternator too but I'm not about to take it apart to paint it. Was wondering if Fluid Film would address it? Basically just wipe it on. Man, that stuff is great on steel parts and bolts. I've wire brushed some bolts and stuck them in a container overnight, wiped them off and installed them. No rust yet.  
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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ArdWrknTrk
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Don't shy away from painting your alternator, John.
Just mask off the front shaft and the regulator/brush holder on the back.

Also be aware that it grounds through the case, so you might want a star washer that can get through the paint and get a good ground.

Most 3G alternators have an unused threaded boss on the rear.
This can take a ground wire directly to where the battery negative bolts to the block, if you like.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Machspeed
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Good points, Jim. I'll may spray bomb the sucker....lol! Thanks!
John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner
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kramttocs
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Sounds like another reason for you to get into powder coating
I've never attempted to take one of the newer ones apart or googled how to rebuild them but the stock master cylinder is a snap. Apples and oranges perhaps...

I haven't used the paint you guys have mentioned but have used Eastwoods booster paint and their cast aluminum paint. Happy with both.
Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio
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grumpin
That’s funny, my first thought was prep, primer and paint. Works on aircraft.

I thought you wanted pretty aluminum!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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Rembrant
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Machspeed wrote
Was wondering if Fluid Film would address it? Basically just wipe it on. Man, that stuff is great on steel parts and bolts. I've wire brushed some bolts and stuck them in a container overnight, wiped them off and installed them. No rust yet.
I'm a big fan of Fluid Film as well, and it certainly wouldn't hurt to wipe it on. I will probably do the same.

Here is the aluminum master cylinder out of the 1995 F150 that I junked for the frame for my 1980 F150. It appears to have been fairly well preserved under all that gunk. I just cleaned it up last night.




It seems to be in OK condition for being 26 years old. Piston cups and bore seem to be OK. It was pretty dirty though, inside and out. Would I be crazy to assemble it and use it as it is, or should I just buy a new one and be done with it? Comments good or bad?


1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Gary Lewis
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Use it as it is since the pistons and bore are good.  Might see if the plastic will stand up to brake cleaner and clean the inside of the reservoir.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Rembrant
Gary Lewis wrote
Use it as it is since the pistons and bore are good.  Might see if the plastic will stand up to brake cleaner and clean the inside of the reservoir.
Would there be any issue with cleaning the reservoir out with water and degreaser, as long as I let it dry out well?
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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ArdWrknTrk
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Glycol fluids are more like antifreeze than they are like oil.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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ArdWrknTrk wrote
Glycol fluids are more like antifreeze than they are like oil.
So, you are saying not to use water and a degreaser?  Would brake cleaner be the thing to use since it is designed to clean brake parts?
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ArdWrknTrk
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Brake cleaner is NOT to remove brake fluid, it's to remove grease and oils from surfaces that you handle, before that grease/oil contaminates the friction material.

There are plenty of YouTube or other online tutorials for cleaning your coolant overflow reservoir.
The same sort of peroxide-surfactant combinations will work in the poly brake reservoirs.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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Jim - I've watched several videos and this is the only one that might be using a peroxide. Is this sorta what you mean? Do you know of a better one?

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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