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Machspeed

Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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Some time back I ordered a bunch of LED lights to replace the incandescent bulbs in my truck. I order my bulbs from Superbrightleds.com. The bulbs that came out of both my ashtray and glove box look like the one pictured below on the top. The bulb on the bottom is what they sent me. Do I have something different than other trucks or did they screw up?

John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner

Gary Lewis

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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Here's what the 1985 owner's manual says for bulbs:

And here's a pic of an 1891 on the left and an 1892 on the right. They sure don't look like yours.

Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

grumpin

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

I have ordered some LEDs lately. Tried them in my truck and liked them. Started looking into the different areas as in, ashtray, glovebox, etc., and found the book didn’t always agree with what was in the vehicle.

This happened in the truck, Bronco and Xterra. Haven’t tried the Suburban yet.

Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona

Gary Lewis

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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Anyone have an '86 owner's manual to check? Oh wait! There's one on that website I use.....

Hmmm, the '86 manual agrees with the '85 manual - 1891 & 2. Guess they are both wrong?

Let's see if we can figure out what really was used and I can make a correction in the manuals.

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ArdWrknTrk

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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Well, John is showing a wedge base style.
Maybe closer to my '87? But I have a Custom without any convenience lighting.

Remember, these aren't polarized, so all diodes, and many LED 'bulbs' will only operate inserted one way.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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194 bulbs are 25 lumen
168 bulbs are 38 lumen

Both are the same size

My dome light is supposed to be 912 (same wedge style base, bigger globe)

912 is 151 lumens
921 is 264 lumens

All the above is for incandescent bulbs, as fitted to these trucks, but they fit wedge base sockets.

LED's are brighter (up to 8x brighter for a given wattage)
I can't say what aftermarket LED manufacturers are going to show for output.

So, I guess it's up to you.. how bright you want your glovebox

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Machspeed

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Thanks Jim. Either my truck is an outlier or an exception to the date of manufacture. We need some members with 86's to pop in.

John

"Blackie" - 1986 F150 4x4 - Mildly warmed over 351W HO - Original owner

kramttocs

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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This post was updated on .

Both those in my 86 are wedge. 9/86

Scott
'Camano' 1986 F250 Supercab XLT Lariat 460/C6
'Chanute' 1980 F350 C&C 400/NP 435 - Gin Pole

But there ain't nothin' wrong with the radio

grumpin

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

Oh, mine are wedge also, 2/86. And by wedge I mean 194 bulbs.

Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona

ArdWrknTrk

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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Right. But there are lots of options beyond 194 with that base.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

delco1946

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

I think all my bulbs on my 81 are the bayonet style.

Christopher in Portland Or. 1981 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 trailer special 351M, and auto C6

Gary Lewis

Re: Glove Box and Ash Tray Light Bulbs

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I'll check Big Blue tomorrow. 5/85 build.

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myrl883

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Every Bullnose that I've seen uses #194 (C2AZ-13466-C) for both ashtray and glovebox. The only place that I can think of that uses the metal base bulbs is the under dash courtesy light, if equipped.

Ford Parts Monkey since 1985
1981 F100 Flareside - Black, 302-4V Roller/AOD
1986 F150 Flareside - Medium Fire Red 302/AOD
1989 F150 Standard Cab 4x4 - Dk Shadow Blue 302/AOD
1993 F350 4x4 Crew Cab - 7.3 IDI/ZF-5
I think it's a sickness...

ArdWrknTrk

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Right.
But a 168 with half again as much light might make a good glove box replacement....

Or any of the LED bulbs that go towards reducing wattage drawn, rather than 😳 surface of the Sun.

Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.

Gary Lewis

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Ok, 194 it is. If you look at the embedded page above, which is from the Documentation/Specifications/Electrical Specifications page you'll see I've struck through the original #'s and added "194". We aren't recommending what people use but just trying to document what the truck came with.

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