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Rogue_Wulff
Well, if I am able to join in, my truck will be full of the good stuff... #2 diesel.
1980 F150 5.9L Cummins Turbo Diesel NV4500 2.75 ratio 9"
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Rogue_Wulff
We made an abbreviated MPG run Friday afternoon, with 3 trucks participating. Matthew/Dorsai, David/1986F150six, and myself. We started at the Mr. Bass store in Skiatook, went to the Total Stop in Hominy, and back to the Mr. Bass where we started. Test loop
Google maps claims the loop is 43.6 miles, and my fuel consumption was 1.444 Gallon. My speedo/odo does not work, but Matthew and David both have functioning speedo/odo, though their readings did not quite match each other nor the google maps stated distance. Doing the math, with all 3 of these readings, gives me an MPG number between 28.8 & 30.2, I'll let you decide which to believe.
1980 F150 5.9L Cummins Turbo Diesel NV4500 2.75 ratio 9"
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Gary Lewis
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David's fuel consumption was 1.935 gallons, which equates to 21.8 MPG using his odometer, and 22.5 MPG using Google's distance.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Dorsai
I like that Google distance; it gives me 17.2 mpg, instead of the 16.4 mpg my own calculations produced.
Matthew
1980 F-150 Custom 2wd longbed, 300-6, C6, 2.75 rear axle
Atlanta GA
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ArdWrknTrk
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Maybe you should all be driving with maps running on your phones?

Then Paul would have his speed and distance displayed while driving. (Well, distance remaining)
Everyone would be working from the same baseline, without regard for tire diameters and such.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Gary Lewis
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It was kind of funny.  Chris/ctubutis came in not too long after the guys left on the MPG run and said "I met three red Bullnose trucks on OK 20 a few miles west of here and thought 'That has to be something associated with Gary.'"  Sure enough. Paul was leading and Matthew and David were following.

Paul said with his gear ratio the speed he was running, about 67 MPH according to David, was below his sweet spot.  David said the speed was above his sweet spot.  And Matthew was just having fun.

But it sure was fun seeing three red Bullnose trucks running in a pack.    
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Re: Gas mileage test [revisited]

ctubutis
Gary Lewis wrote
It was kind of funny.  Chris/ctubutis came in not too long after the guys left on the MPG run and said "I met three red Bullnose trucks on OK 20 a few miles west of here and thought 'That has to be something associated with Gary.'"  Sure enough. Paul was leading and Matthew and David were following.

Paul said with his gear ratio the speed he was running, about 67 MPH according to David, was below his sweet spot.  David said the speed was above his sweet spot.  And Matthew was just having fun.

But it sure was fun seeing three red Bullnose trucks running in a pack.    
Yeah, I mentally raised one eyebrow in a Spock-like fashion when I saw you guys, you just don't see that in everyday life anymore. ;)

That was fun, thank you for having me, Gary!  I got to meet "the usual" awa Scott/kramttocs & Matthew/Dorsai, that was cool. :)

The electronic thermostat/HVAC control fritzed out in my SHO, it thought it was -33 degrees outside and wanted to turn on the heater. But I nevertheless made it home by 6:30 MDT, it's rare that I make it home and it's still light outside. ;)

I didn't take a single picture using my own phone. :(
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Gary Lewis
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Thanks for coming, Chris.  And I can just see you raising the one eyebrow.  

Glad you made it home safely and in the daylight.  How was Ralston?  Nine-Mile Road?
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ctubutis
I got into Ralston and parked near the City Hall building and tried to get my bearings... it was raining pretty steadily and my defroster insisted on turning the heat on. I proceeded on after a while and came to feel like that city hall building is the nicest thing in the entire town, the rest of it is quite literally falling apart. Do they have an antique store there by chance? Me & ND Bill stopped at a handful of those places on our travels, you can sometimes find some neat-o stuff in those places. But I didn't find/recognize a single business along that street, not even the drug store I saw there several years ago when I first took that road.

Anyway, I turned around at the end of Main Street and went back to 18 to 60, I decided I didn't want to try and read those street signs using only a paper map and no GPS instructions to try and reverse navigate Nine Mile Road.
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Re: Gas mileage test [revisited]

salans7
I've got nothing to contribute other than Hi Chris!
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Gary Lewis
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I haven't been to/through Ralston for a few years, so don't know about antique stores.  Last I knew there was only a cafe there.

Probably a good idea to go back to 18 and that way to 60.

Did you happen to see the signs going into Fairfax about the Tallchief sisters?  At one time they were two of the top ballerinas in the world.  One of them, Maria, even danced in Moscow's Bolshoi Theater.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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ctubutis
Hey, Shaun! :) You going next year?

Gary - I don't remember any specific signs about ballerinas or opera houses (I should have googled it before I went there), and maybe it was a cafe I ran across on my way in from the other direction, they had an orange, neon sign in the window is about all I remember. My guess is nothing is open on Sunday mornings, if there's anything even still in business.

I read on the Internet how they've been trying to restore the opera house and there's a gofundme campaign for it, I should have had a gps take me directly to it but I didn't think about it + coverage out there is spotty, I couldn't even tell you when I got on 20 because of no signal strength. There's an old mountain town out here called Central City that still has a functioning opera house, at least in the summertime.

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salans7
ctubutis wrote
Hey, Shaun! :) You going next year?
I'm planning on it. Can't say I'll be participating in fuel mileage testing though because I highly doubt my truck will be running.
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Gary Lewis
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Chris - Central City has the face on the ballroom floor, if I remember correctly.  Right?  Dad was always talking about that, and I've seen it several times.

The ballerinas and the opera house are in Fairfax, not Ralston, north of the Y where you hit 18.  Fairfax was right in the middle of the problems where the white men were marrying Osage women and killing them to get their money.  The book Killers Of The Flower Moon is about that, and the movie is said to be in production.

Shaun - Maybe we should have a towing MPG category?  I'd use Blue.  
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Rogue_Wulff
Gary Lewis wrote
 Maybe we should have a towing MPG category?  I'd use Blue.  
And I'd still use my F150....
1980 F150 5.9L Cummins Turbo Diesel NV4500 2.75 ratio 9"
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Gary Lewis
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Rogue_Wulff wrote
And I'd still use my F150....
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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rust&crust
figured I would chime in on loaded mpg  . I was at show with the brown truck with a loaded trailer . I drove 128 miles to the show start mileage 74169 end 74292 fueled at casino 13.224 gallon fill up for a loaded mpg of 9.67 average top speed 55 to squirrelly above that speed headed home same load start 74292 end 74423 total miles 131 with a fill up of 13.154 gallons for a mpg 9.95 .Not sure how much I was pulling but i figured around 5000 to 6000 pounds with trailer being 2000 of those pounds
84 p.o.s f150 dark brown 300 six granny 4 speed daily
94 work truck f350 white crew cab 460 e40d single wheel
74 mercury monterey 4 door daily driver
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Re: Gas mileage test [revisited]

salans7
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Gary Lewis wrote
Shaun - Maybe we should have a towing MPG category?  I'd use Blue.  

I'll have a rental, soooooo.
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Danny G
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1986F150Six wrote
Yes, Cory. This would simply be to lower wind resistance during the extended highway drive.
should try the Type 14's too, they are about $8 each from RA. Seem to be a bit more aerodynamic than the type 5's.
1986 F-150|Standard Cab|4x2|300Six|C6Transmission w/3.08 rear|Name:TBD
2021 Ranger XLT Super Crew
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Gary Lewis
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Shaun - If you can, get a rental with the Ecoboost.  Or a diesel.

Timothy (rust&crust) - You got back on!  Good!  10 MPG isn't bad with that much weight.  My 2015, Blue, got 11.0 towing our 25' SeaRay to/from Lake Powell in Utah.  The boat weighs about 5K and the trailer, being aluminum, is just less than 1k, so we were at 6k #'s.  We towed at 65 MPH and the engine handled it superbly.

In fact, to this point I'd much rather tow with that truck that with Big Blue.  There's no muss, no fuss, just "can do!"  And, at 11.0 MPG towing 6K #'s vs 11.5 running light on Big Blue, the MPG is excellent.  But maybe the new engine in Big Blue will change that.

Having said that, Paul/Rogue_Wulff will probably, as David said, spank us.  That Cummins is getting 30 running light.  Blue gets maybe 20 on the same course.  So 11 over 20 gives 55% when towing.  That means Paul might get 16.5 MPG towing, although from what I've read the diesels don't lose as much MPG as the gas engines do when towing.  
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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