Dragging/Binding Starter

Don't know. But I have read of the spades corroding and ripping in half when people try to remove them. By using a ring there's one less connection to fail if the spade tab is nutted.

A lot of starters stop working because that connector gets so corroded.
But the stud/nut isn't covered in a plastic housing. I think it gets a chance to dry out, so stay submerged in salty water.

That connector was the subject of a "no crank" TSB back in the '90's.

I just finished upgrading Lucille to the later model Ford PMGR starter (part number E9SZ-11002-BRM/SA769ARM) .  I like the fact that the PMGR starter is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the original starter.  It was easier to handle, and there is more airflow between the new starter and my headers.  I also picked up this OEM Ford starter shield (part number F4TZ-11006-A) to further protect it from the heat:




So what's not to like?  The sound of it.  Although it cranks the engine much faster, it sounds *weird* to me.  Like a jet engine starting up or something.  I think I prefer the sound of the older starter better.  Maybe I will get used to it.  

Great! Good job!

It’s funny, I never thought much of the sound. My F250 has the old style, my Bronco has the PMGR.

I’m sure now I’ll hear it!

I didn't realize there was a factory shield.  Good idea to go with it.

As for the sound, I had a MOPAR in my early days and got used to their weird starter sounds, so the PMGR sound doesn't bother me.  I'll trade it for the faster cranking any day.

Regarding the sound, I've brought that up a few times since changing over to the new PMGR starter. For me, it's not a matter of disliking the sound, rather it's more in the way of change. I've owned this truck since new and I know exactly how things should sound. Got a similar experience when I upgraded to the Saginaw power steering pump too. No more growl. Weird.

Mopar's always sounded like a whine or a cry to me. I had a few slant sixes in my younger days

Yep. First thing that came out my mouth when I made the swap was "sounds like my Ranger" (which has a stock PMGR). But you get used to it.

Machspeed wrote

For me, it's not a matter of disliking the sound, rather it's more in the way of change. I've owned this truck since new and I know exactly how things should sound.

That's fair.  And those are my thoughts exactly.

Lucille has been in my family since 1993, and I have been listening to the sound of the stock starter for almost 30 years(!)  That sound is familiar to me, and familiarity always been the charm of this old Ford.  Before, it sounded like an old Ford starting up.  Now, it sounds like a UPS truck starting up.  It would really sound out of place in a car.

I will give it some time.  Perhaps I will get used to the new sound.  After all, there are many more benefits to the PMGR starter.

Besides, I would rather hear the rapid machine-whine of the PMGR starter than the depressing sound of my stock starter dragging when the engine is heat soaked.

mat in tn wrote

Mopar's always sounded like a whine or a cry to me. I had a few slant sixes in my younger days

What's not to like about the Mopar's starter sound
It is so good ZZ Top used it at the beginning of one song
Dave ----

LARIAT 85 wrote

I just finished upgrading Lucille to the later model Ford PMGR starter (part number E9SZ-11002-BRM/SA769ARM) .  I like the fact that the PMGR starter is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the original starter.  It was easier to handle, and there is more airflow between the new starter and my headers.  I also picked up this OEM Ford starter shield (part number F4TZ-11006-A) to further protect it from the heat:




So what's not to like?  The sound of it.  Although it cranks the engine much faster, it sounds *weird* to me.  Like a jet engine starting up or something.  I think I prefer the sound of the older starter better.  Maybe I will get used to it.

Very cool, thanks for sharing this Rick. I am installing a PMGR starter on the 5.0 in my '52 pickup, and I can use this shield also.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274853748430?epid=1629985709&hash=item3ffe8f5ece:g:rOIAAOSwvRBg3xBd

Anyone have a picture as to how that wraps the starter?  

Machspeed wrote

Anyone have a picture as to how that wraps the starter?

It clips onto a lip on the top of the starter and slides down to a stop at the end of the assembly.  It's a piece of hard plastic that seems to provide most of the protection to the solenoid.

Sorry, I should have taken a picture.