Bought my 1st FORD

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Bought my 1st FORD

80ranger
Hey guys new just got a 80 F150 Ranger Trailer Sp. Has a 351W 2bbl. Rust on wheel arches but pretty clean small oil leak. Stalls out at stops and when I shift in to R and D. Thanks for the add.

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1980 Ranger 351W
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Gary Lewis
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Welcome!

But, are your sure it is a 351W?  In 1980 it should have been a 351M.  To tell the difference, the Windsor has 6 valve cover bolts and the M has 8.

As for the stalling, these engines came with Motorcraft 2150 carbs, and they can easily have a blown power valve.  That makes them idle poorly, among other things, so that might account for the stalling at idle.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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80ranger
Wow never new that, Thank you. I'll look in the morning. The guy I got it from said he thought it was a 351W, but with that being said I'll look at it and see if it has 8 bolts or 6. Also, thank you for the info on the carb. Think a rebuild kit will help or should I look into upgrading the carb?
1980 Ranger 351W
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Gary Lewis
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Before diving into the carb you should do some other diagnostics.  Do you have a vacuum gauge?  You can check the idle mix with one, but if not you can do it by ear.  Here's how I do it:

- With the engine off gently screw both idle mix screws all the way in, counting how many turns they were turned out.  Accuracy to 1/8 turn is accurate.

- Then turn them out 2 1/2 turns each.

- Attach the vacuum gauge to a port on the manifold.  One of the ports on the plastic manifold back on the firewall will work also.  But whatever you use has to have full vacuum at idle.

- Start the engine and warm it up, and then turn the idle mix screws out 1/4 turn.  If the vacuum or RPM increases, then turn them out 1/4 turn more, and continue that until the vacuum/RPM quits increasing and starts to drop.  But if the vacuum/RPM actually dropped when you turned the screws the first 1/4 turn out, then start going in 1/4 turn at a time until you find the best idle.

Assuming that you find a good idle then you may not need to rebuild the carb.  But if turning the screws all the way in gives a better idle, albeit not really good, then your power valve is leaking.

And if turning the screws all the way out gives a better idle then you probably have a vacuum leak, like a cracked vacuum hose.

Anyway, give that a try and we will see where to go next.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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grumpin
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Welcome!
Dane
1986 F250HD SC XLT Lariat 4x4 460 C6-Sold
1992 Bronco XLT 4x4 351W E4OD
1998 GMC Sierra SLE K1500 350 4L60E
Arizona
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844rd
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Welcome!!
Kevin 84 F-150 300 i6 Manual 3 speed overdrive 2.47 rear end
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80ranger
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Ok this weekend (tomorrow) I will rebuild the carb. It's sucking air from the bottom of the carb. I got the kit for it. See how it goes.
1980 Ranger 351W
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Gary Lewis
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Let us know how it goes, and good luck.  
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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Ferdinand
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Welcome 80Ranger. Good luck on the carb rebuild. I have an Edelbrock 1406 (600 cfm w/elec. choke) on my 85 Bronco and rebuilt it due to a fire and it went pretty smooth for never doing it before. Let us know how it goes!
Jamie Helmick
'85 Bronco 351W HO, C6, 4X4, Full rebuild @ 51k original miles (fire), Edelbrock air gap intake & 600 cfm carb. w/elec. choke. 4" RC lift w/35's. Check the Projects Page if you're interested.