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300 I6 Carburetor spacer

86 1/2 Brutus
I'm trying to find an aftermarket carb spacer for Brutus, seams all i can find are for 170's and 200's   Any ideas?
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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1986F150Six
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Gary Lewis
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Thanks, David!

Do you remember if there are spacing differences in the carb studs?  Seems like there's a minor difference somewhere.
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Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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1986F150Six
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Yes. One can easily elongate the spacing using a rattail file. Place the later model gasket on the bottom of the spacer and mark what needs to be removed. It takes less than 15 minutes, by hand.

There are two YF bolt spacings: 2 11/16 [early] or 2 15/16 [later; 1982?].
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Gary Lewis
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Thanks, David.  That helps.
Gary, AKA "Gary fellow": Profile

Dad's: '81 F150 Ranger XLT 4x4: Down for restomod: Full-roller "stroked 351M" w/Trick Flow heads & intake, EEC-V SEFI/E4OD/3.50 gears w/Kevlar clutches
Blue: 2015 F150 Platinum 4x4 SuperCrew wearing Blue Jeans & sporting a 3.5L EB & Max Tow
Big Blue: 1985 F250HD 4x4: 460/ZF5/3.55's, D60 w/Ox locker & 10.25 Sterling/Trutrac, Blue Top & Borgeson, & EEC-V MAF/SEFI

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1986F150Six
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This spacer is 2" thick [about 2X stock]:

https://www.dashman.net/product.html?id=333

Here is a phenolic one [1/4" thick]:

https://www.dashman.net/product.html?id=92

1/2" phenolic:

https://www.dashman.net/product.html?id=264

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There's also these spacer pictured below. This is the one off the 300/6 I removed from the 1980 Flareside (Although I believe the engine is a 1985-1986). The number in the casting appears to be D9TE-9A5S9-HA.




I'm not sure if these were only on Canadian trucks or not? I don't believe we ever got the feedback systems up here....if we did, I've never seen one, ever. I have however seen 300/6 trucks with EGR and without like this one. I'm not sure how they were divided up, but every one of the trucks I have found with this spacer were later 1985-1986 models.

1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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86 1/2 Brutus
Awesome, thanks so much guys.   they want a pretty penny for those nos ones on ebay
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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ArdWrknTrk
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Take a look at spacers for Jeeps.
They have the proper 2 15/16 bolt spacing and a 1.75" bore.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cwa-53000616?rrec=true

These come in different thicknesses and with one or two vacuum taps.

For $11 it's hard to go wrong.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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86 1/2 Brutus
Thanks Jim  i was just getting ready to ask that question
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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Ford F834
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The only thing about this spacer is I am thinking it won’t cover the EGR port in the intake manifold. That’s why the Ford one has the “ear” on non-EGR applications. It’s not pretty, but on one of my engines I tapped the hole and put an Allen head pipe plug sealed with silicone. The factory spacer is the cleanest, but everyone wants one which drives up the price.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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ArdWrknTrk
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That's exactly what I did when I got rid of the 460 EGR spacer with the 'ear'  (I didn't use sealer, it's a pipe plug)

I don't care too much about "pretty", function before form after all.

If George can find a Canoodian spacer, all the better.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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Ford F834
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I used sealer because I cut my own threads and they were a bit rough... but it worked. Of course so does blocking off the end of the factory EGR spacer which is how my current 300 came to me... but it’s bulky and in the way. I believe the non-EGR spacer came on some trucks in the USA in the 70’s but regardless they are hard to come by.
SHORT BED 4-DOOR DIESEL: 1986 F350 4x4 under construction-- 7.3 IDIT ZF5+GVOD

STRAIGHT SIX 4X4: 1981 F150 2wd to 4x4-- 300 I6 close ratio diesel T19, hydroboost brakes, Saginaw steering

BIG F: 1995 F-Superduty under construction— converting to 6.9L IDI diesel ZF5+DNE2
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86 1/2 Brutus
thats how i am running it right now, but it is cracked and i siliconed it.  I know silicone will not hold up but i had to do what i had to do to get it running to progress.
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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You are correct on that. I had a 1977 F150 with the 300 engine and a C4 transmission. Another "lab rat" (what we called ourselves in Laboratory Services at NNS) had a 1977 F100, essentially the twin to mine. His had the full 1977 light duty emission system, EGR included and his EGR came through a passage in the top of the intake into the EGR spacer. Mine had the spacer with a blocking tab covering the port in the heat stove area so the intakes were the same, just mine had the passage covered by the spacer and his had the EGR valve there.
Bill AKA "LOBO" Profile

"Getting old is inevitable, growing up is optional" Darth Vader 1986 F350 460 converted to MAF/SEFI, E4OD 12X3 1/2 rear brakes, traction loc 3:55 gear, 160 amp 3G alternator Wife's 2011 Flex Limited Daily Driver 2009 Flex Limited with factory tow package Project car 1986 Chrysler LeBaron convertible 2.2L Turbo II, modified A413

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86 1/2 Brutus
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I got my new carburetor spacer in today, i ended up taking jim's advice and get this one

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cwa-53000616?rrec=true

My question is.  Under the original spacer there is a 3rd hole. i'm guessing the 3rd hole is for the egr valve.  what should i do about it as far as blocking it off, any ideas?
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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ArdWrknTrk
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While my truck is a V-8, I simply used a pipe thread tap and put the recessed socket type of pipe plug in it.

Do you already have your PCV and brake booster hooked up?
Because you could use it if you need it.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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86 1/2 Brutus
Yea thats all hooked up.  what i'm talking about, is under the spacer on the manifold, there is a 3rd hole and it does not seam like this spacer will cover the hole
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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86 1/2 Brutus
I guess i'm going to have to see tomorrow when i take it off, but it looks to me like the hole will be exposed, if thats the case i think i may be able to put a nut and bolt in the hole to block it
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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ArdWrknTrk
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Right.... there's a hole in the edge of the intake manifold neck.
While I don't have an I-6, I do have a life sized pdf of the EGR spacer gasket.

I'm just saying, in my case I tapped the hole and put a flush plug so it wouldn't interfere with my new non-EGR spacer sealing flat on the manifold.

I'm sure you've got this!  
I thought you were looking for best practices, or the simplest method of dealing with the potential leak.

 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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