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86 1/2 Brutus
awesome, thanks.   thats the last of the outside stuff i need.  I am going to get the correct tail lights one of these days.
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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86 1/2 Brutus wrote
BTW.  any clue where i can find marker lights.  I cant seam to find them at LMC
Front fender marker lights? I have a set from LMC in my truck.

Edit: I just looked, and when on LMC site, you have to go to the Park Light section...if you click on Marker Light, it does not work. Odd. They are there though.
1994 F150 4x2 Flareside. 5.0 w/MAF, 4R70W, stock.
1984 F150 4X2 Flareside. Mild 302 w/ 5spd. Sold.
1980 F150 4X4 Flareside. 300i6 w/ 5spd. Sold in 2021.
1980 F100 4X2 Flareside. 351w/2bbl w/NP435. Sold in 1995

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Sac79
So do I. And they are Ford ones(came in a Ford branded bag and the lens is branded), not reproduction. Shows them currently in stock.

https://www.lmctruck.com/1980-96-ford/sidemarker/fd-1980-86-front-sidemarker-light-components

edit - Appears to be the same thing as is available from Dennis Carpenter, made with 'Original Ford tooling'...
Rob

Eddy Myrtle '84 F150 300-6, Offenhauser C series intake, Edelbrock 1404(500cfm manual choke), EFI exhaust manifold, HEI dizzy, custom Painless harness, NP 435, NP 208, D44, 8.8"/3.08, 1.5" leveling coils, 265/75/16 tires.
Toyopet (Daily driver) '86 Toyota Pickup
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FuzzFace2
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ArdWrknTrk wrote
Where I see people have problems with drums is that they have the leading and trailing shoe incorrect.

I think Dave Grant (fuzzface) said one of his trucks had both long shoes on one side and both short shoes on the other!  
Yep it was me and have pictures to prove it if you want to see.
Also 1 if the adjuster cables was missing IIRC it was a mess
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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FuzzFace2
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86 1/2 Brutus wrote
So was this looked into same shoes on the same side?
Someone trying to follow what the PO did on my truck


Yea that Ebrake spring is not right but even the replacements were the same
I cut the spring shorter so it would not bind but they don't work all that great.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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86 1/2 Brutus
Drum brakes are such a pain for us, I have no clue why, i'm just thankful they are done.  I've had so many e brakes stick on me over time and tear up the drum, i just disconnected it
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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ArdWrknTrk
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Do you see how the lining of Dave's front shoe ends before the dent in the edge of the steel backing?

Emergency brakes are useful (in an emergency)
If you get in the habit of exercising them each time you park they don't get sticky.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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86 1/2 Brutus
Yes, the lining on mine are not the same size, they just look like it.  the brakes dave has is  something like 1/8 inches or so larger then my shoes, those have one shoe with a much longer pad area then mine..    Back in the parts days, truck back brakes used to drive me insane because nobody knew what brakes they had and most of the time, they would bring them back, and hopefully with an old brake shoe
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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86 1/2 Brutus
to be honest though, Brutus probably uses the larger shoes like Dave has.  I really dont remember, back some years ago when the parts truck was running the roads i did a back brake job on it, once it became a parts truck and money got tight,
Brutus needed a back brake job so we just pulled everything off the parts truck
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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86 1/2 Brutus
but for both sets of brakes, hardware, wheel cylinders and drums are the same, just a slightly larger shoe, and i mean slightly
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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Frank Wyatt
I did a brake job on the back of my truck last year and mine were like that with the lining on both shoes being virtually identical. It does stop much better now as the old wheel cylinders were  completely seized and non functional.
1981 F 150 Custom 300 ci with a fully rebuilt 1968 240 head Carter YFA T-18 3.25 9" rear 2WD
dual gas tanks
1990 Lincoln Town Car 5.0 AOD
Home town Mc Kenzie, TN
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86 1/2 Brutus
Frank, you have the smaller brakes.  Funny thing.  like i said above, i really dont remember if i had the larger ones or the ones i have now, but for a long long time Brutus just didn't have good brakes.  Brakes is not our strong suit, but i had a friend do it for me, he is the one who took the brakes off the parts truck and put them on Brutus.  He didn't do a very good job and Brutus still didn't have good brakes.  Once we finally got it done correctly, he stops like he did when new.    Never really could figure out the reason the 2 different sizes that are offered on our trucks is less then 1/8th of an inch different, using the same hardware, cylinders and drums.   only difference i see is the lining of 1 shoe is larger area
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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FuzzFace2
IIRC the one pictured (flare side) is the large brakes with the 5 x 5.5 bolt pattern non-power brakes.
My parts truck (long bed style side) had the smaller brakes and 5 x 4.5 bolt pattern power brakes.

Both of my trucks are 1981 F100, same weight of 4700 GVWR, both 300 six, both 9" rears different ratios, and stick transmissions - parts a SROD mine a T18.

I don't think I have seen shoes with linings that close in how long they are, most are like mine.
Dave ----
Dave G.
81 F100 flare side 300 six / AA OD / NP435 / 2.75 gear
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1980-Ford-F100?page=1
81 F100 style side 300 six/SROD parts truck -RIP
http://cars.grantskingdom1.com/index.php/1981-Ford-F100
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Frank Wyatt
My truck is the 6100 lb GVWR and has the larger 11" DRUMS WITH 11" X 2.31" brake shoes. I would imagine the difference in the rear brake drum and shoe sizes would be the GVWR of the truck. The trucks with the smaller bolt pattern, 5x4.5, was found on the F100's built between 1980-1983. F100's built during that time also came with the normal 5x5.5 as well. The trucks with that colt pattern had the lightest GVWR and the smallest brakes, think passenger car brakes not only on the rear but on the front brake pads also.
1981 F 150 Custom 300 ci with a fully rebuilt 1968 240 head Carter YFA T-18 3.25 9" rear 2WD
dual gas tanks
1990 Lincoln Town Car 5.0 AOD
Home town Mc Kenzie, TN
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86 1/2 Brutus
There are 2 different brake shoes that fit Brutus .  Both using 11 inch drums, they are interchangable.  The shoes are either 11 x 2.31 or 11 x 2.26.   Hardware and wheel cylinders are the same for both sizes.  It is the 11 x 2.31 that has the larger shoe area.  The ones you see in my pic are the 11x2.26.     It took me a while to refresh my memory.  My truck did come with the larger brakes.  Some years ago when the parts truck went off the road and became a parts truck, i had just done a brake job on it, it used the smaller 11 x 2.26 shoes.  since it was a brand new brake job and Brutus needed back brakes, i went ahead and put them on and they work just fine.  Some years later i busted a rear seal and rear end oil got all over everything so everything had to be changed.    When i went to the store to get the brakes, i got the larger ones and for some reason i had a moment so to speak and forgot i put the smaller ones on and returned them and got a new set of the smaller ones.    the only real difference in the brakes is the shoe area on 1 of the shoes, it is longer.  The smaller ones that i am using the shoe area is in fact the same size on both sides.    The next brake job will have the larger brakes that are supposed to be on there, but we are not pulling or hauling so i'm not worried about it.   The main difference like what was stated above is the gvwr of the truck, but both are interchangable
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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ArdWrknTrk
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Be mindful to cut or replace the drums when you go back to wider shoes, or the track these ones will have worn is going to rip the edges right off the new ones.
 Jim,
Lil'Red is a '87 F250 HD, 4.10's, 1356 4x4, Zf-5, 3G, PMGR, Saginaw PS, desmogged with a Holley 80508 and Performer intake.
Too much other stuff to mention.
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86 1/2 Brutus
most definatly Jim.   Again, is some times good to hoard.  I have a brand new set of drums in the shed.  When i did the brake job on the parts truck, on the way home, the transmission went out and the truck was parked

funny thing, it wasn't until i joind you guys did i find out that i did in fact have a transmission that would have worked, although it did work out for the best as my old truck is what was able to get Brutus back running the roads again.

When the trans went out, ( mazda 5 speed )  was about the time i started with the forums.  I think i mentioned this a while ago in a post about why i like the Bullnose forum so much, and i think it was Gary that told me the trans would bolt up.

The original question was  I have an 88 f150 with a 300.  I have a c4 trans from a 351M, and a FMX from a 302.  Will any of them bolt up to my engine.

All my responses were " I would put an aod"

it wasn't until years later Nick stumbled on the bullnose forum.  he told me i found this really cool forum that i think you will like.  I told him i'd look into it, and i never did.  
I had way to many hastles on many forums and was thinking, this isn't going to be any different.  Some time later i decided to just go ahead and look.  Now here i am.

I was in a few groups on facebook as well that i got out of because of snide comments and just total rudness.    
Nick and George
1986 1/2  F150 XLT Lariat 4X2  300 Six  - C6 - 3:08 in a 8.8 -  Fully Loaded - 8 Foot Box
Owned since new
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Kevin - Thanks for joining.  However, you missed my email asking you to introduce yourself in the New Members Start Here folder before posting elsewhere.

We ask that because we have our guidelines posted in that folder and want you to have had every chance to see them since we hold everyone to them.

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