ckuske Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 If I ever bother with it... My truck's more function than form these days! That’s a good strategy. Unfortunately my truck is in the inverse situation, but trying to fix that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I did see that Dave, good observation! I am chalking that 87-91 up to an error on their part. I am certain there was a sticker like that originally on the visor from when I was a kid. I can't remember the exact verbiage etc, but the graphics and layout match what I remember. Of course, the picture on LMC isn't good enough for me to see if there's anything 87-91 specific on the sticker, but if/when I do an LMC purchase, I figure I can spring for a sticker and try it until I am proven wrong. In fact, I'd love to be proven either right or wrong on this one more than relying on a 25 year old memory There is a reason LMC states that the AOD sticker is correct for 1987 - 1991. 1987 is when the manual transmission became a 5-speed, whereas the Bullnose generation was only a 4-speed. So the 1987 sticker would have the number "4" on it in the manual transmission diagram. The specific one for the Bullnose generation would not. The fourth gear + overdrive verbiage also shows up under the "Driving Modes" section. The "AOD" notes on the sticker is the same. Capiche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckuske Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 I did see that Dave, good observation! I am chalking that 87-91 up to an error on their part. I am certain there was a sticker like that originally on the visor from when I was a kid. I can't remember the exact verbiage etc, but the graphics and layout match what I remember. Of course, the picture on LMC isn't good enough for me to see if there's anything 87-91 specific on the sticker, but if/when I do an LMC purchase, I figure I can spring for a sticker and try it until I am proven wrong. In fact, I'd love to be proven either right or wrong on this one more than relying on a 25 year old memory There is a reason LMC states that the AOD sticker is correct for 1987 - 1991. 1987 is when the manual transmission became a 5-speed, whereas the Bullnose generation was only a 4-speed. So the 1987 sticker would have the number "4" on it in the manual transmission diagram. The specific one for the Bullnose generation would not. The fourth gear + overdrive verbiage also shows up under the "Driving Modes" section. The "AOD" notes on the sticker is the same. Capiche? That is an interesting factoid! But if the 87 trucks had a 5-speed, wouldn't the decal have a '5' and the Bullnose era have the '4' ? Just making sure I understand. Now I have to decide if I put the decal on knowing it is wrong. Well, I said I wanted to know truth and I'm mostly glad about that haha. Thanks again for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 That is an interesting factoid! But if the 87 trucks had a 5-speed, wouldn't the decal have a '5' and the Bullnose era have the '4' ? Just making sure I understand. Now I have to decide if I put the decal on knowing it is wrong. Well, I said I wanted to know truth and I'm mostly glad about that haha. Thanks again for the info. It seems like there's a good cottage industry for getting those decals "right". And if someone were to do so then I'd bet LMC and the others would sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARIAT 85 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 That is an interesting factoid! But if the 87 trucks had a 5-speed, wouldn't the decal have a '5' and the Bullnose era have the '4' ? Just making sure I understand. 4th gear is "OD" for the 1980 - 1986 trucks. 3 gears + overdrive = 4-speed. 5th gear is "OD" for the 1987+ trucks. 4 gears + overdrive = 5-speed. AOD = 3 gears + overdrive. It is referred to as a 4-speed automatic. By contrast, a C4 or C6 is called a 3 speed because all you get is 3 forward gears, no overdrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckuske Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 That is an interesting factoid! But if the 87 trucks had a 5-speed, wouldn't the decal have a '5' and the Bullnose era have the '4' ? Just making sure I understand. 4th gear is "OD" for the 1980 - 1986 trucks. 3 gears + overdrive = 4-speed. 5th gear is "OD" for the 1987+ trucks. 4 gears + overdrive = 5-speed. AOD = 3 gears + overdrive. It is referred to as a 4-speed automatic. By contrast, a C4 or C6 is called a 3 speed because all you get is 3 forward gears, no overdrive. Got it, thanks for the clear explanation. For those (still) interested, I think this reproduction decal (and lots of others) trace back to Jim Osborn Reproductions. He makes an 87-90 sticker, but no 80-86. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sa4AfjhuEUdL2Gp6D119-tFoyWhihpI4/view?fbclid=IwAR3rCckrco3tm0usdSvqlCq7cCYymEziplQ1T0unQQ7bDV6CIAizyTYg0w8 I'm going to send an email and see what luck I have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machspeed Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Got it, thanks for the clear explanation. For those (still) interested, I think this reproduction decal (and lots of others) trace back to Jim Osborn Reproductions. He makes an 87-90 sticker, but no 80-86. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sa4AfjhuEUdL2Gp6D119-tFoyWhihpI4/view?fbclid=IwAR3rCckrco3tm0usdSvqlCq7cCYymEziplQ1T0unQQ7bDV6CIAizyTYg0w8 I'm going to send an email and see what luck I have I actually drew up and printed visor decals for my truck sometime back. These were decals not available for my truck. I printed them on adhesive paper and originally was quite pleased with them. I had intended to make them available but after a hot Summer here in Oklahoma, realized that they would not adhere. Surprisingly, even one of the decals that I purchased from one of the distributors failed to adhere. There are glues out there that I could probably utilize but I've not had the time to play with it. I'm open for suggestions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I actually drew up and printed visor decals for my truck sometime back. These were decals not available for my truck. I printed them on adhesive paper and originally was quite pleased with them. I had intended to make them available but after a hot Summer here in Oklahoma, realized that they would not adhere. Surprisingly, even one of the decals that I purchased from one of the distributors failed to adhere. There are glues out there that I could probably utilize but I've not had the time to play with it. I'm open for suggestions though. John - If we could find the right adhesive and the right medium then those things would be sought after. I think Jim might be the guy to answer the adhesive question so I'm going to tag him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 John - If we could find the right adhesive and the right medium then those things would be sought after. I think Jim might be the guy to answer the adhesive question so I'm going to tag him. Gary/John I'm not sure exactly which adhesive might be best to adhere these decals (stickers? I think of decals as having a clear background, like the old water slip decals you'd find in plastic model kits) I suspect that the type of acrylic adhesive found on foil duct tape would be most permanent. It is definitely tenacious and heat resistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdavidsmi Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 John - If we could find the right adhesive and the right medium then those things would be sought after. I think Jim might be the guy to answer the adhesive question so I'm going to tag him. This thread got me to thinking about what’s in my trucks The 84 4x4 The decal is very brittle and has slipped. And on the other side. The 86 rwd Just standard decals David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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