Anyone seen this? Crown Vic front suspension to F frame?

[rcarlisle]

OMG, this looks awesome! This is for a bump side, but looks like it would probably work for a Bullnose. This would be an awesome swap I would think, for a 2wd street cruiser. Lower the rear to match and BAM.

https://www.blueovaltrucks.com/tech-articles/ford-f-100-crown-vic-front-suspension-swap/

[85lebaront2]

The friend I helped with a 1956 Dodge used a Mustang II setup, and said he wished he had gone with a Crown Vic swap. The Mustang II front suspension was pretty well overloaded with a Mopar 360 sitting on it.

[FuzzFace2]

The friend I helped with a 1956 Dodge used a Mustang II setup, and said he wished he had gone with a Crown Vic swap. The Mustang II front suspension was pretty well overloaded with a Mopar 360 sitting on it.

I would never do a Stang II set up as I feel it is to light duty for anything it would ne used on.

As for the CV in our trucks it is not that easy.

If you do a search (Google) you will find that some have started but I dont know of any of them finished and on the road.

IIRC 1 was on a Bronco and the other a pick up and both stopped at about the same place with the CV suspension just placed there.

The problem with our trucks is the frame where the CV needs to be mounted it is not flat like the early trucks are, its curved.

The pickup the user cut the frame out and welded in steel to make it flat.

I did not like how it was done as I think it could have been done a little better.

I want to say there is a company that makes a kit to bolt / weld the CV into our trucks but cant think of it off the top of my head.

I have my eye on a short bed frame if I can get it for the right price and would do a CV swap to it and then could do a body / drive train swap to for the WOW!

Or build another truck but dont tell the wife LOL

The other thing if you want to lower our trucks there are drop beams but you can do the full CV frame swap or use the frame & firewall / floor to replace the firewall / floor of our cabs.

Look into what is done on the bump & dent side trucks and most of that can be done on ours.

As you can see my wheels have been turning on this CV swap from the front suspension swap to full frame to full frame / firewall / floor swap.

Dave ----

[rcarlisle]

I would never do a Stang II set up as I feel it is to light duty for anything it would ne used on.

As for the CV in our trucks it is not that easy.

If you do a search (Google) you will find that some have started but I dont know of any of them finished and on the road.

IIRC 1 was on a Bronco and the other a pick up and both stopped at about the same place with the CV suspension just placed there.

The problem with our trucks is the frame where the CV needs to be mounted it is not flat like the early trucks are, its curved.

The pickup the user cut the frame out and welded in steel to make it flat.

I did not like how it was done as I think it could have been done a little better.

I want to say there is a company that makes a kit to bolt / weld the CV into our trucks but cant think of it off the top of my head.

I have my eye on a short bed frame if I can get it for the right price and would do a CV swap to it and then could do a body / drive train swap to for the WOW!

Or build another truck but dont tell the wife LOL

The other thing if you want to lower our trucks there are drop beams but you can do the full CV frame swap or use the frame & firewall / floor to replace the firewall / floor of our cabs.

Look into what is done on the bump & dent side trucks and most of that can be done on ours.

As you can see my wheels have been turning on this CV swap from the front suspension swap to full frame to full frame / firewall / floor swap.

Dave ----

Yep, there are a lot of projects out there stalled for one reason or another. That's why I insist on keeping mine running, even if it's not super cool truck. I know how easily I can get distracted, so I have to keep the truck going. I'm dreading it being apart for a week while I get seat upholstered and carpet in. One litte thing goes wrong and I worry about getting it going again. But that's me.

And as much as I like this idea, not sure I would take it on. Would love to see it done though.

[FuzzFace2]

Yep, there are a lot of projects out there stalled for one reason or another. That's why I insist on keeping mine running, even if it's not super cool truck. I know how easily I can get distracted, so I have to keep the truck going. I'm dreading it being apart for a week while I get seat upholstered and carpet in. One litte thing goes wrong and I worry about getting it going again. But that's me.

And as much as I like this idea, not sure I would take it on. Would love to see it done though.

I hear you on being down.

When I was rebuilding mine I worked as fast as I could to get it rolling so it felt like it was not that bad.

I also tried to get it moving under its own power ASAP, again so it felt like it was not that bad.

It took me 4 years before I could drive it, before that it was only a bad short test drive.

I know something has to be done with my seat and if I have to take it off the road for a week I am ok(some what) with that but would not like it down more than that.

I enjoy drive my truck and used the truck all last week to / from work and 2 days this week and it is 37 miles each way, if my math is right that was 518 miles! Now wonder the miles add up so fast!

Dave ----

[rcarlisle]

I hear you on being down.

When I was rebuilding mine I worked as fast as I could to get it rolling so it felt like it was not that bad.

I also tried to get it moving under its own power ASAP, again so it felt like it was not that bad.

It took me 4 years before I could drive it, before that it was only a bad short test drive.

I know something has to be done with my seat and if I have to take it off the road for a week I am ok(some what) with that but would not like it down more than that.

I enjoy drive my truck and used the truck all last week to / from work and 2 days this week and it is 37 miles each way, if my math is right that was 518 miles! Now wonder the miles add up so fast!

Dave ----

Mine is the perfect project for me. All the hard stuff was already renewed. I just have to do maintenance and fix up.

I have become accustomed to driving mine a couple days every week and it being down a week will suck, but I'll have evening work to do - getting old carpet out and new carpet in. And getting ready for the new seat. I say that is all, but I already know I'm going to need door panels soon since the pass side has cracked in two places on the top. BUt the interior is going to be basically renewed. Not restored, but renewed. That's where I sit so that's the big thing for me - be comfy when we're out in it.

I was going to leave the seat, but since we're going to new carpet, may as well do as much of it "Right" as possible.

 

[RenoHuskerDu]

Sean Holman of 4 Wheeler Mag (which has probably been bought out again by now) had a long-running Project Speedbump, which is a Dentside with Crown Vic front suspension and a modern turbodiesel, or a hemi, I forget which, something fun and fast.

Great guy, actually answers messages, I sorta lost touch with him after we left yurrup.

Could be an info source for your idea. CV front is said to bolt right in.

[Frank Wyatt]

Sean Holman of 4 Wheeler Mag (which has probably been bought out again by now) had a long-running Project Speedbump, which is a Dentside with Crown Vic front suspension and a modern turbodiesel, or a hemi, I forget which, something fun and fast.

Great guy, actually answers messages, I sorta lost touch with him after we left yurrup.

Could be an info source for your idea. CV front is said to bolt right in.

Crown Vic suspension swaps are OK for trucks that are going to be week-end warriors or trailer queens but it's not for me. There is of course nothing wrong with it if that's what you like though because we are all different and like different things and there's room for all of us. I my self do not mind that my truck rides like a truck and it's suspension is more than capable enough for my style of driving, in fact if I ever hit 60 mph, I'm in a really big hurry as the majority of the time I rarely get as fast as 55 mph with the majority of my driving being 45-50 mph. If that's not fast enough for ya, go around. I also don't mind how it rides as I have owned more trucks than I have cars. My truck is my normal daily driver as it's not only more comfortable to me than my '90 Lincoln Town Car but around town my average fuel consumption is better than my car. Also the car is currently parked due to a front brake caliper trying to stick when you push the brake pedal, all due to an idea by the factory to use phenolic pistons in the brake calipers. Easily fixable though. If I want a truck that rides like a car, I'll go buy myself a Ford Ranchero but again, that's just me, to each his own.

[Rembrant]

The Crown Vic swap has been done on a Bullnose, but you have to basically drop the truck to the ground and tuck the wheels. The ones I've seen are driving around with no inner fender liners because the wheels are tucked in there so far. It's not my thing at all, but dropping them to the ground is all the craze these days. I'm more of a stock ride height guy...I don't even like the levelling kits that everybody installs, but again, to each their own. We can't all like the same things.

The suspension is one thing...and it doesn't bother me at all in the Bullnose, it's the steering that gets on everybody's nerves. If somebody made a kit to install a nice rack and pinion steering system on a Bullnose, I would have done that years ago.

[rcarlisle]

The Crown Vic swap has been done on a Bullnose, but you have to basically drop the truck to the ground and tuck the wheels. The ones I've seen are driving around with no inner fender liners because the wheels are tucked in there so far. It's not my thing at all, but dropping them to the ground is all the craze these days. I'm more of a stock ride height guy...I don't even like the levelling kits that everybody installs, but again, to each their own. We can't all like the same things.

The suspension is one thing...and it doesn't bother me at all in the Bullnose, it's the steering that gets on everybody's nerves. If somebody made a kit to install a nice rack and pinion steering system on a Bullnose, I would have done that years ago.

Good point. I wouldn't want to have to modify my old truck that much. Mine seems to have a pretty low stock ride height any way. Probably weak springs? And it was bought to live with us as a truck. SO whatever I do, we have to be able to go get a load of building or yard supplies.

Great idea about a kit to convert to a more precise steering system.