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Hi. Weather is still good here at the Norwegian north west coast. Its been one of the best summers ever 🙂. I finally got the box with parts from Holley. I changed the metering rods from size .60/.52 to .62/54. The metering rods affects fuel amounts when cruising and full throttle. I hoped Eddie would get less thirsty. And he did. The fuel consumption was reduced with 10 % on my test route. But I did not notice any negative change in power. I suspected Eddie of running to rich. But checking the spark plugs I dont think he does I leave it as it is for now. In Norway we measure fuel consumption in litres pr. 10 km. Eddie used 1,8 l / 10 km. Those of you who wants a challenge may convert it to mpg 🤔 Greetings Stein.

Well done! That's reasonable MPG, and if it still drives well you should be good on the AFR. :nabble_smiley_good:

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Well done! That's reasonable MPG, and if it still drives well you should be good on the AFR. :nabble_smiley_good:

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I have a Weiand Stealth intake that came with the Street Demon Carburetor. So since Eddie runs so good, why not try to put in a new intake ?IMG_20210814_121412_4.thumb.jpg.711a89c5c4e008ffd295335036b8c859.jpg First out with the coolant and then dismounting carburetor and more.IMG_20210814_123322_1.jpg.1f092aab5b8ef447ed66f6e82f66b0a2.jpgIMG_20210814_124644_8.thumb.jpg.c85ff01195738fc633f27b6d85e146e9.jpgIMG_20210814_131828_2.jpg.274626b977e14f6003c5ca0759982550.jpg silicon hose sweating oil ?IMG_20210814_130248_2.jpg.502c95a1cc9387a4082e7194cf5273b0.jpgIMG_20210814_134508_4.jpg.efd5952c3e2040a68400155e07e19e95.jpgIMG_20210814_145017_7.jpg.8f3ab4e802d489d0fc26312e26385abd.jpgIMG_20210814_145129_8.jpg.58f2a01f6c43620d62780b75861f8153.jpgIMG_20210814_152550_1.thumb.jpg.c8d949be6221e554ba6163319389b66c.jpgIMG_20210814_152529_1.jpg.89fea0727bf918b620847a7f7b0518d9.jpgIMG_20210814_181320_5.thumb.jpg.ff4a74f96464f27a1f3566062c136b5d.jpgIMG_20210814_190408_6.thumb.jpg.c76b67f9a346f26411abbe5d17e90889.jpg The EGR system will go. And I dont understand the need of high idle when engaging gear or ac. The normal idle does not drop at all when engaging gear or ac. So the vacuum hoses for throttle kicker will go. Tested screw holes for the intake, they are all good. The screws were easy to loosen. So now its ready to put in the new manifold. Tested the gasket for fit. Mr.Gasket # 5831. Needs a little trimming between the notches at the ends to lay perfectly flat. I wonder if this gasket will withstand the heat/ pressure from the two exhaust ports for the EGR system ? Any experience with that ? Greetings Stein

 

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I have a Weiand Stealth intake that came with the Street Demon Carburetor. So since Eddie runs so good, why not try to put in a new intake ? First out with the coolant and then dismounting carburetor and more. silicon hose sweating oil ? The EGR system will go. And I dont understand the need of high idle when engaging gear or ac. The normal idle does not drop at all when engaging gear or ac. So the vacuum hoses for throttle kicker will go. Tested screw holes for the intake, they are all good. The screws were easy to loosen. So now its ready to put in the new manifold. Tested the gasket for fit. Mr.Gasket # 5831. Needs a little trimming between the notches at the ends to lay perfectly flat. I wonder if this gasket will withstand the heat/ pressure from the two exhaust ports for the EGR system ? Any experience with that ? Greetings Stein

The exhaust crossover is as much to provide heat and atomize fuel from the plenum floor directly beneath the carburetor as it is to provide inert gas to the EGR.

I realize Eddie is not your everyday transportation, but in cold weather the crossover is important for driveability until the engine is fully warm.

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The exhaust crossover is as much to provide heat and atomize fuel from the plenum floor directly beneath the carburetor as it is to provide inert gas to the EGR.

I realize Eddie is not your everyday transportation, but in cold weather the crossover is important for driveability until the engine is fully warm.

Hi. Thanks for feedback.

There is exhaust crossover on the new intake. I blew through to make sure :nabble_smiley_beam: But there is no EGR. The picture shows the crossover holes and 2 new gaskets and one old. IMG_20210815_111238_5.jpg.21788a222a04292106a3afb49cca41ad.jpg The new gaskets are of a softer character while the old one is a much stiffer quality. The new gaskets which came with the complete set ( carburetor, air filter, intake, screws and more )for a 351W , is for a 302 older version.IMG_20210815_112631_1.thumb.jpg.6f925459f5d8b2b467e0cffa93244551.jpg With gaskets like the originals I will keep the crossover function. So I must postpone putting in the intake and wait for new gaskets instead. Greetings Stein.

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Hi. Thanks for feedback.

There is exhaust crossover on the new intake. I blew through to make sure :nabble_smiley_beam: But there is no EGR. The picture shows the crossover holes and 2 new gaskets and one old. The new gaskets are of a softer character while the old one is a much stiffer quality. The new gaskets which came with the complete set ( carburetor, air filter, intake, screws and more )for a 351W , is for a 302 older version. With gaskets like the originals I will keep the crossover function. So I must postpone putting in the intake and wait for new gaskets instead. Greetings Stein.

I'm not certain why you can't just cut holes in the gaskets you have using the old ones as a template?

If the gasket material is soft be sure to keep re-torquing the bolts after heat cycles until they don't seem to lose clamping any more.

Also (depending on your heads) make sure to apply sealant to the bolt threads if they meet the coolant crossovers front and rear.

I use Loctite PST for this, as I only want a seal and not to hold the bolt, so I can re-tighten.

That new carb and intake look good! :nabble_smiley_cool:

 

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I'm not certain why you can't just cut holes in the gaskets you have using the old ones as a template?

If the gasket material is soft be sure to keep re-torquing the bolts after heat cycles until they don't seem to lose clamping any more.

Also (depending on your heads) make sure to apply sealant to the bolt threads if they meet the coolant crossovers front and rear.

I use Loctite PST for this, as I only want a seal and not to hold the bolt, so I can re-tighten.

That new carb and intake look good! :nabble_smiley_cool:

Hi. You are right, I could cut holes but I dont feel confident in the quality and fit of the gaskets. Maybe they are not made for hot exhaust gases ? Old vs New. IMG_20210815_123615_1.jpg.1b022f4ad7f111f170730dcab98af421.jpgIMG_20210815_123720_8.jpg.d65bb35da2782ff1c30f243c0e104121.jpgIMG_20210815_123622_3.jpg.be5e085cbd9899c20c207d1dfcde43ca.jpgIMG_20210815_123725_9.jpg.f062bad415e9ce990c37f8cfee5b671d.jpgIMG_20210815_123628_5.jpg.3c35576edcc6b33f67ec4719e7330f99.jpgIMG_20210815_123731_9.jpg.5f0a679f85a66c5c999af0759baedcba.jpg I have ordered new from Mahle and FelPro. Regarding the coolant crossovers, there is only at the front. Isn`t that weird ? Neither the new or old manifold has coolant crossover at the rear. Greetings Stein.

 

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Hi. You are right, I could cut holes but I dont feel confident in the quality and fit of the gaskets. Maybe they are not made for hot exhaust gases ? Old vs New. I have ordered new from Mahle and FelPro. Regarding the coolant crossovers, there is only at the front. Isn`t that weird ? Neither the new or old manifold has coolant crossover at the rear. Greetings Stein.

The heads are cast so they can be finished for either side, but the coolant passes from the water pump through the block to the rear, and then forward through the heads and has to meet at the thermostat housing to get to the radiator.

A rear crossover would short circuit that flow pattern.

I guess I should have said "anywhere a bolt might pass to the water jacket" (should have the threads sealed)

Gary has said before that he doesn't like the quality of Mr Gasket products.

I think Mahle or Fel-Pro are probably superior.

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The heads are cast so they can be finished for either side, but the coolant passes from the water pump through the block to the rear, and then forward through the heads and has to meet at the thermostat housing to get to the radiator.

A rear crossover would short circuit that flow pattern.

I guess I should have said "anywhere a bolt might pass to the water jacket" (should have the threads sealed)

Gary has said before that he doesn't like the quality of Mr Gasket products.

I think Mahle or Fel-Pro are probably superior.

Hi. I see. Ford makes one model of the heads that will fit both sides of the engine :nabble_thinking-26_orig:. They just add 2 more chances for a coolant leak. None of the bolts goes through a waterway. Today I have put on a new lower coolant hose. Found my old torque wrench ( 30 years since I used it , torquening the head on my fathers Fiat Uno). Then I have to convert ft/lbs to Nm. Just preparing for the new gaskets. Luckily I had some new screws, 5/16 x 18, to replace the old ones holding the termostat housing. The old ones were 8mm bolts. Did not want to force 8 mm screws into the new intake. Greetings Stein

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Hi. I see. Ford makes one model of the heads that will fit both sides of the engine :nabble_thinking-26_orig:. They just add 2 more chances for a coolant leak. None of the bolts goes through a waterway. Today I have put on a new lower coolant hose. Found my old torque wrench ( 30 years since I used it , torquening the head on my fathers Fiat Uno). Then I have to convert ft/lbs to Nm. Just preparing for the new gaskets. Luckily I had some new screws, 5/16 x 18, to replace the old ones holding the termostat housing. The old ones were 8mm bolts. Did not want to force 8 mm screws into the new intake. Greetings Stein

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Think Grumpin is correct about 13.08 mpg :nabble_anim_claps: Thought I could spend some time in the nice weather this weekend to change the pins in the drivers side door hinges. Of course I ended up using much more time then I thought it would take. Maybe it is possible to change the pins after removing only the door but I ended up taking the hinges off . IMG_20210821_123745_5.jpg.826b2f1c920db0130ddd7edbe512fdb1.jpg A good advice is to mark as good as you can the hinges position before taking them off.IMG_20210821_133131_6.thumb.jpg.10f9c43572b6f7ee5dc27fceda4066a7.jpg After drilling the crimp off, knock the old pin and bushings out.IMG_20210821_135816_7.thumb.jpg.470dbfcddbaf019744789d4e327aeff6.jpg you can fix up some rust on hinges and door beam.IMG_20210822_105937_2.thumb.jpg.25a1bf78f755628c9f6068d19712cee3.jpg The new bushings and pins were easy to get in. The upper hinge needed a washer inside and under the clip to make it snug. IMG_20210822_163332_2.thumb.jpg.15710a2520eac508f2d31565ffed705e.jpg I think I put the door on and off 10 - 15 times before I got the hinges right. The bolt for the door lock also had to be moved.IMG_20210822_132828_3.thumb.jpg.d4699dd9eb969d267b2fa54caadccb0e.jpg But finally it ended up better than before IMG_20210822_144151_2.jpg.ec4d8fed72753d2359bf553304b2f364.jpg 10 hours work ??:nabble_smiley_oh: After a week of rain the sun shines again. But its getting colder, 11 - 18`C. Monday I may get the gaskets for the intake. Greetings Stein.

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Think Grumpin is correct about 13.08 mpg :nabble_anim_claps: Thought I could spend some time in the nice weather this weekend to change the pins in the drivers side door hinges. Of course I ended up using much more time then I thought it would take. Maybe it is possible to change the pins after removing only the door but I ended up taking the hinges off . A good advice is to mark as good as you can the hinges position before taking them off. After drilling the crimp off, knock the old pin and bushings out. you can fix up some rust on hinges and door beam. The new bushings and pins were easy to get in. The upper hinge needed a washer inside and under the clip to make it snug. I think I put the door on and off 10 - 15 times before I got the hinges right. The bolt for the door lock also had to be moved. But finally it ended up better than before 10 hours work ??:nabble_smiley_oh: After a week of rain the sun shines again. But its getting colder, 11 - 18`C. Monday I may get the gaskets for the intake. Greetings Stein.

Well done! I'll bet those pins and bushings make a big difference. :nabble_anim_claps:

As for the temp, I think that's about 50 to 65 F. Here it is supposed to get to 100F today, which is 38C. Kinda warm. :nabble_smiley_cry:

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