ArdWrknTrk Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Yes I'm using the link in the email. Since I asked the question it hasn't asked me for a password. Weird... I think I checked the box, I usually do, and I don't remember being asked about cookies. But I'll keep an eye out. I've asked a couple of local Auto parts stores and neither O'Riley's, nor Napa were able to come up with a complete assembly. Napa so far had the best options for cleaning up what I had and rebuilding it, (new pump, new strainer, new float to clip on the sender), but is still looking for a sender. I told them id check to see if I was going to need one .They seemed a little high on price. 70.00 for the good life time warranty pump, then 20,00 DOLLARS FOR 0 THE LITTLE REPLACEMENT FLOAT, 15 DOLLARS FOR THE STRAINER Do you know what the values would be with I assume an ohm meter? Resistance on empty, then on full? I always thought that the Generator ran on the front tank, but after pulling it out there was only 2 hoses, the supply and return. So the rear must have three hoses. Kinda of unrelated, but is there a inline check valve I can put on the generator line? The crank time I feel is excessive between starts because the fuel line drains back to the the tank. The listing right below it (9350-D) says aft axle E-350 including cutaway... with 3 ports. I'm going to suggest that this is the one for the generator. If the third port is connected to the pump, and not just a suction line, I don't see why you would need a check valve. But I'm unsure of how the generator is wired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26ftcobraBBF Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 The listing right below it (9350-D) says aft axle E-350 including cutaway... with 3 ports. I'm going to suggest that this is the one for the generator. If the third port is connected to the pump, and not just a suction line, I don't see why you would need a check valve. But I'm unsure of how the generator is wired. Update here, I'm sure a few of you are wondering if that guy ever found his paddle.... So I've went ahead and dropped the rear tank also, I was going to wait till I got the new front tank, and the new pump assembly installed in it, but in my research I've found it's been tough finding decent quality parts. For the front tank I actually found a whole complete pump/ sender assembly. O'rileys couldn't find it, Autozone showed one, but was unavailable. Napa couldn't find it either. They all could get just the pump, but not the entire assembly. I found for online purchase only, from Advanced Auto parts a Spectra Premium pump/ sender assembly.... $169.00... they gave me $45.00 bucks off as a promo if I signed up to receive there news letter... no brainer there. Also with my purchase confirmation email, they sent me a 25% off coupon to be used in 72 hours. As for the condition of rear tank...pristine, I was shocked at how the front and rear tanks differed, not a speck of rust , or dirt. Just afew small pieces of deteriorated fuel hose from the generator pickup tube. The rear tank sending unit was in better shape, and still functioning so ill just be replacing the pump alone. One of the challenges I found was finding a suitable GPH pump. Most of the ones that they said were an OEM Pump lacked the required volume. All the parts ordered Stay tuned they'll be arriving Friday. P.S. a bench test revealed both old pumps were bad, and wouldn't power up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Update here, I'm sure a few of you are wondering if that guy ever found his paddle.... So I've went ahead and dropped the rear tank also, I was going to wait till I got the new front tank, and the new pump assembly installed in it, but in my research I've found it's been tough finding decent quality parts. For the front tank I actually found a whole complete pump/ sender assembly. O'rileys couldn't find it, Autozone showed one, but was unavailable. Napa couldn't find it either. They all could get just the pump, but not the entire assembly. I found for online purchase only, from Advanced Auto parts a Spectra Premium pump/ sender assembly.... $169.00... they gave me $45.00 bucks off as a promo if I signed up to receive there news letter... no brainer there. Also with my purchase confirmation email, they sent me a 25% off coupon to be used in 72 hours. As for the condition of rear tank...pristine, I was shocked at how the front and rear tanks differed, not a speck of rust , or dirt. Just afew small pieces of deteriorated fuel hose from the generator pickup tube. The rear tank sending unit was in better shape, and still functioning so ill just be replacing the pump alone. One of the challenges I found was finding a suitable GPH pump. Most of the ones that they said were an OEM Pump lacked the required volume. All the parts ordered Stay tuned they'll be arriving Friday. P.S. a bench test revealed both old pumps were bad, and wouldn't power up. I thought we had the paddle and used it on the newbies. Anyway, you are certainly making progress! Finding the whole assembly was a huge blessing. And finding the rear setup in such good shape was a blessing as well. And that bench test confirmed what you already thought - time to replace the pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Update here, I'm sure a few of you are wondering if that guy ever found his paddle.... So I've went ahead and dropped the rear tank also, I was going to wait till I got the new front tank, and the new pump assembly installed in it, but in my research I've found it's been tough finding decent quality parts. For the front tank I actually found a whole complete pump/ sender assembly. O'rileys couldn't find it, Autozone showed one, but was unavailable. Napa couldn't find it either. They all could get just the pump, but not the entire assembly. I found for online purchase only, from Advanced Auto parts a Spectra Premium pump/ sender assembly.... $169.00... they gave me $45.00 bucks off as a promo if I signed up to receive there news letter... no brainer there. Also with my purchase confirmation email, they sent me a 25% off coupon to be used in 72 hours. As for the condition of rear tank...pristine, I was shocked at how the front and rear tanks differed, not a speck of rust , or dirt. Just afew small pieces of deteriorated fuel hose from the generator pickup tube. The rear tank sending unit was in better shape, and still functioning so ill just be replacing the pump alone. One of the challenges I found was finding a suitable GPH pump. Most of the ones that they said were an OEM Pump lacked the required volume. All the parts ordered Stay tuned they'll be arriving Friday. P.S. a bench test revealed both old pumps were bad, and wouldn't power up. You might consider replacing that pump on the frame with a large fuel filter... 💡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26ftcobraBBF Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 You might consider replacing that pump on the frame with a large fuel filter... 💡 I'm planning on it, just haven't decided which one. There's a Holley I seen that has a clear canister with replaceable element (which is expensive) or maybe just a regular metal one with 3/8 in and 3/8 out. Probably the cheaper option this project has gotten quite speedy. I also went and replaced all the hoses.. I wish I would have priced the tank filler hoses before I cut the old ones off. Yikes!!! They needed replaced, but dam there expensive. Ended up going to the wrecking yard this morning and pulled some off random vehicles. Napa wanted about 90.00 in hose, got them for 5 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM Ashby Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I'm planning on it, just haven't decided which one. There's a Holley I seen that has a clear canister with replaceable element (which is expensive) or maybe just a regular metal one with 3/8 in and 3/8 out. Probably the cheaper option this project has gotten quite speedy. I also went and replaced all the hoses.. I wish I would have priced the tank filler hoses before I cut the old ones off. Yikes!!! They needed replaced, but dam there expensive. Ended up going to the wrecking yard this morning and pulled some off random vehicles. Napa wanted about 90.00 in hose, got them for 5 bucks. I have a F350 7.5 with all smog and fuel system in stock form and operating with no problems. I use Airtex E2088s in main tank (4)m wire. Rear tank is factory plastic tank with small hole I use Airtex #E2091s (2) wire. Make sure that the fuel lines that run on top of the frame in the engine compartment ( Pressure and return) are as far away from exhaust manifold as possible. I used fuel line heat sleeves on both to stop vapor lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I have a F350 7.5 with all smog and fuel system in stock form and operating with no problems. I use Airtex E2088s in main tank (4)m wire. Rear tank is factory plastic tank with small hole I use Airtex #E2091s (2) wire. Make sure that the fuel lines that run on top of the frame in the engine compartment ( Pressure and return) are as far away from exhaust manifold as possible. I used fuel line heat sleeves on both to stop vapor lock. The reflective heat shield is a very good idea! 💡 I think Gary has some on his fuel lines too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM Ashby Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I have a F350 7.5 with all smog and fuel system in stock form and operating with no problems. I use Airtex E2088s in main tank (4)m wire. Rear tank is factory plastic tank with small hole I use Airtex #E2091s (2) wire. Make sure that the fuel lines that run on top of the frame in the engine compartment ( Pressure and return) are as far away from exhaust manifold as possible. I used fuel line heat sleeves on both to stop vapor lock. Also Fuel pressure is 2.5 to 5 psi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 The reflective heat shield is a very good idea! 💡 I think Gary has some on his fuel lines too. Yep, I have reflective insulation on the fuel lines, but supply and return, where they cross the exhaust - even though they are several inches away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26ftcobraBBF Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Yep, I have reflective insulation on the fuel lines, but supply and return, where they cross the exhaust - even though they are several inches away from it. Hi all, UPDATE: I've got the Cobra MH all back together, 2 new fuel pumps, removed universal pump that was hanging off the frame rail, removed the romex that someone ran from the fuse panel to the universal pump. With all properly installed and grounds clean, I still have to power to the pumps. I have power in and out of the inertia switch, so where do I go from here? Jumper the solenoid? Jumper the oil pressure switch? Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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