TravelMaster Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Hello, I've got an 87 TravelMaster RV which is based on the E-350 and it has a V8 7.5 liter 460. The previous owner had a problem with the compressor and decided to remove the whole compressor brackets and his mechanic got rid of them. I've managed to track down 2 of 3 missing brackets so I'm just looking for the last one which is proving elusive! Anybody know of some place I can get this bracket? Does anybody have one lying around? I really wish I had the shape and dimensions as I could have a friend cut one on the waterjet. It's listed as a 19D897 also part number 2889: I was able to get 2 out of 3 of the brackets from Spalding Auto Parts in Spokane Washington but their lots didn't have this last one. If anyone has one or has even a clue of a salvage yard that might have one please let me know! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I'm sorry, but you were requested in the email I sent you to go to the New Members Start Here folder, read the guidelines, and introduce yourself in a new thread there. Not post first in the Want To Buy section. We are very strict on the guidelines and want everyone to have read them so they know what is expected. So please assure me you've read them. And, after you've done your introduction post perhaps someone will come forward with the parts for which you are looking. Also, once you done that I will address the part number - and 19D897 is not a complete part number. It is a BRACE (AIR CONDITIONER COMPRESSOR) and that's the generic number used for an A/C brace in every Ford vehicle produced from 1964 to day, anywhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelMaster Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 I'm sorry, but you were requested in the email I sent you to go to the New Members Start Here folder, read the guidelines, and introduce yourself in a new thread there. Not post first in the Want To Buy section. We are very strict on the guidelines and want everyone to have read them so they know what is expected. So please assure me you've read them. And, after you've done your introduction post perhaps someone will come forward with the parts for which you are looking. Also, once you done that I will address the part number - and 19D897 is not a complete part number. It is a BRACE (AIR CONDITIONER COMPRESSOR) and that's the generic number used for an A/C brace in every Ford vehicle produced from 1964 to day, anywhere in the world. Sorry Gary, I've been having problems with my email today. I just did an introduction post! Here: Thanks for the cool forum it seems like a really cool community glad to be a part and make some friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Sorry Gary, I've been having problems with my email today. I just did an introduction post! Here: Thanks for the cool forum it seems like a really cool community glad to be a part and make some friends. We'll get there. Ford part numbers. First, there are three parts to a part #: Prefix that tells what it is for and when it was designed; generic number that is used on all Ford vehicles everywhere; and the suffix. Second, any number on a part is not a part number. It is an ID or engineering #, which is different from the part number but can usually be cross-referenced to the part number. Your 19D897 is BRACE (AIR CONDITIONER COMPRESSOR). And the Master Parts Catalog says that an 83/87 E-F100/350 - - 7.5L takes part # E3TZ 19D897-A. I'm not sure that having that number will help you, but at least you know that any 1983 - 87 E or F-series vehicle w/a 460 and factory installed A/C should have that part. And to help with the part number decoding, the E3TZ means: E = the decade of the 80's 3 = 1983 - the year it was designed and usually first used T = truck, which normally means the F-Series pickups but in this case it is also used on the E-Series vans Z = replacement part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 We'll get there. Ford part numbers. First, there are three parts to a part #: Prefix that tells what it is for and when it was designed; generic number that is used on all Ford vehicles everywhere; and the suffix. Second, any number on a part is not a part number. It is an ID or engineering #, which is different from the part number but can usually be cross-referenced to the part number. Your 19D897 is BRACE (AIR CONDITIONER COMPRESSOR). And the Master Parts Catalog says that an 83/87 E-F100/350 - - 7.5L takes part # E3TZ 19D897-A. I'm not sure that having that number will help you, but at least you know that any 1983 - 87 E or F-series vehicle w/a 460 and factory installed A/C should have that part. And to help with the part number decoding, the E3TZ means: E = the decade of the 80's 3 = 1983 - the year it was designed and usually first used T = truck, which normally means the F-Series pickups but in this case it is also used on the E-Series vans Z = replacement part I realized last night I have one of those brackets, as shown below. And, while I don't want to sell it as it is part of a whole "kit" to put A/C on one of these trucks, I could measure it & draw it up so you could have one made. It is a piece of 5/16" plate and it should be easy to fabricate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzFace2 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I realized last night I have one of those brackets, as shown below. And, while I don't want to sell it as it is part of a whole "kit" to put A/C on one of these trucks, I could measure it & draw it up so you could have one made. It is a piece of 5/16" plate and it should be easy to fabricate. http://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n73888/E3TZ_19D897-A.jpg The "bat wing" is different for the 300 six motor. I lost 1 off the motor before I could get the AC working and had to make 1 and because it was from alum. I made 2 to match. Dave ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelMaster Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 I realized last night I have one of those brackets, as shown below. And, while I don't want to sell it as it is part of a whole "kit" to put A/C on one of these trucks, I could measure it & draw it up so you could have one made. It is a piece of 5/16" plate and it should be easy to fabricate. http://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n73888/E3TZ_19D897-A.jpg The "bat wing" is different for the 300 six motor. I lost 1 off the motor before I could get the AC working and had to make 1 and because it was from alum. I made 2 to match. Dave ---- Yeah that looks like the one Gary! That bracket is like unobtanium around where I live! I've called 7 or 8 salvage yards today and nobody had anything earlier than an 1989. If you have the time and skills to CAD it up I would appreciate it! I could paypal some dough for your time as compensation or just pay it forward in the future somehow... As a second choice if you have a flatbed scanner and you can scan it in as a 1-to-1 ratio and send a PDF of the scan, I can import it into Corel or AutoCAD and trace it out and make a DXF out of it. I've done that with a bunch of non-purchasable gaskets over the years for compressors and different motors and we've used a friends Epilog laser cutter to cut them out of either cork or rubber. Works like a champ! You start to think in very different ways when you have the skills and equipment to just go grab the old gasket, scan it, CAD it and then cut it - It's weird but when I was younger I used to only be able to just go research/buy stuff, now with the age of 3D printers, laser cutters and CNC machines you can make a whole lot of things yourself. I've got a friend with an entire machine shop full of Haas CNC machines and a Haas CNC lathe and I have a friend has a hookup with a waterjet machine who can probably cut it out for a low cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelMaster Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 I realized last night I have one of those brackets, as shown below. And, while I don't want to sell it as it is part of a whole "kit" to put A/C on one of these trucks, I could measure it & draw it up so you could have one made. It is a piece of 5/16" plate and it should be easy to fabricate. http://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n73888/E3TZ_19D897-A.jpg The "bat wing" is different for the 300 six motor. I lost 1 off the motor before I could get the AC working and had to make 1 and because it was from alum. I made 2 to match. Dave ---- Dave, Those aluminum brackets look pretty dang good for a replica! How long have you been using them? I bet you had one already for the 300 so you had two made because the 300 used two right? Did you go with aluminum just because you had it available or to reduce the weight? I bet aluminum is probably okay just due to how thick it is for this particular bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yeah that looks like the one Gary! That bracket is like unobtanium around where I live! I've called 7 or 8 salvage yards today and nobody had anything earlier than an 1989. If you have the time and skills to CAD it up I would appreciate it! I could paypal some dough for your time as compensation or just pay it forward in the future somehow... As a second choice if you have a flatbed scanner and you can scan it in as a 1-to-1 ratio and send a PDF of the scan, I can import it into Corel or AutoCAD and trace it out and make a DXF out of it. I've done that with a bunch of non-purchasable gaskets over the years for compressors and different motors and we've used a friends Epilog laser cutter to cut them out of either cork or rubber. Works like a champ! You start to think in very different ways when you have the skills and equipment to just go grab the old gasket, scan it, CAD it and then cut it - It's weird but when I was younger I used to only be able to just go research/buy stuff, now with the age of 3D printers, laser cutters and CNC machines you can make a whole lot of things yourself. I've got a friend with an entire machine shop full of Haas CNC machines and a Haas CNC lathe and I have a friend has a hookup with a waterjet machine who can probably cut it out for a low cost. Sounds like you guys have a plan but I've got one I pulled off an 86 460. I need it for a future project (long ways away) but happy to send it to you if you want to send it back when you have one made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yeah that looks like the one Gary! That bracket is like unobtanium around where I live! I've called 7 or 8 salvage yards today and nobody had anything earlier than an 1989. If you have the time and skills to CAD it up I would appreciate it! I could paypal some dough for your time as compensation or just pay it forward in the future somehow... As a second choice if you have a flatbed scanner and you can scan it in as a 1-to-1 ratio and send a PDF of the scan, I can import it into Corel or AutoCAD and trace it out and make a DXF out of it. I've done that with a bunch of non-purchasable gaskets over the years for compressors and different motors and we've used a friends Epilog laser cutter to cut them out of either cork or rubber. Works like a champ! You start to think in very different ways when you have the skills and equipment to just go grab the old gasket, scan it, CAD it and then cut it - It's weird but when I was younger I used to only be able to just go research/buy stuff, now with the age of 3D printers, laser cutters and CNC machines you can make a whole lot of things yourself. I've got a friend with an entire machine shop full of Haas CNC machines and a Haas CNC lathe and I have a friend has a hookup with a waterjet machine who can probably cut it out for a low cost. I have the skills to do CAD, but not the time at the moment, what with the show going on and the work on Big Blue. (Check out the show: Truck Shows/2020 Truck Show in the menu. You can enter, but time is limited.) But I can try the scanning approach and send the pdf to you and you can see what you think. Or, take Scott/kramttocs up on his offer. Maybe it would be easier to draw it yourself than start from a pdf? Which approach do you want to take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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