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So to be clear, I "may" have the -B in my truck even though it does not have a tach?

Last thing.... in regards to the instrument cluster as a whole, what other Ford vehicles and years might I find a replacement instrument cluster for my truck. I believe the Bronco is of the same, perhaps the same year/years van?

Thanks fellas!

Yes, you may have the right printed circuit. And yes the Broncos are the same. But no other vehicles were from what I know.

And 1980 is slightly different in that the turn signal and other lights were in different spots. But that can be changed if you find an '80 printed circuit with tach.

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Yes, you may have the right printed circuit. And yes the Broncos are the same. But no other vehicles were from what I know.

And 1980 is slightly different in that the turn signal and other lights were in different spots. But that can be changed if you find an '80 printed circuit with tach.

F600 & F800?

 

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F600 & F800?

Yes, I think you may be correct. However, while we know the tach will work, will the rest of the cluster? Are the lights above the same? I don't know that I've heard one way or another. Do you know?

Some of the lights above are different. The gauges [fuel, ammeter, fuel & oil pressure] are the same, I believe. "Gasoline" tachometer were 4500 RPMs and some speedometers were 75 MPH and later ones were electronic.

I have a medium duty speedometer in my truck. It does not offer trip odometer, does show 85 MPH and the odometer goes to 999,999.9.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-FORD-F600-USED-DASHBOARD-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-FOR-SALE/123687740905?epid=1786871364&hash=item1ccc5d25e9&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&enc=AQAFAAADYBzSmp%2BlJMyw7KXD8JmQDJwq2KgK5w%2BqG6dGvXQYDSFG%2F8W62SMLFfevcUsxDxFzIcPvjQgrMsVL5LPxDn5gSmxurXQxgNAznOLMm762i6A6f0vnJWVitDS5L6714gYNLP5f5nd6%2BZMAHusog3mvXPz%2BFB8ftKTI%2Bi6Tt%2BI1AvEJxVsns0iHEvZ%2FrklfXLs6SD1ljUfbmE26QRsuMU2Oot4j1RR59kGP8Tpc6vaV%2F4UEHBUFBTJYijkVe0RvMNxNBGQQWhkTmof40%2BmtrGggq7wdI9xY93Z4W7Cv5lvvqSVsYsXcPm57LMBV5WHkBa5bjlN%2B05sR9ysE77VWmhJ%2BZeN3tcBBlC%2BN0noW0RszgMNJnO6flR%2Fu1mUAwUQ6g9IKQ4vA1CGX89hAh1POIANa0gexUhnKE3%2BNERNpxRXwZaV1nO0VvLeP5vAqTXTzXj%2FElYLdR3Kt8ahzDNhKzbl5rNooh0cYX7%2Fw7PcptdHxITz4mcCndiSkVYN511qOXhAKh8TmmIxSal1FgnIJOwFFV1s8Qu0mxmPsF1KZJ%2FraXUj4%2F3lNjwn6h5zRANgKubSNwFfPP6105peQPsbl4Ka1f7BiEVwYOzJgaqIZZwteQfss6VnbXP3kAL5t%2BhhpvSDQ8m2UMTo3ZCebpQCtlVWKjXVzAdylMnLGEPEy7EpNTZpd4CNuM0yn%2FGeJ%2BXkIxOvd7tNeejPeUev4nsNu7OehKmlZ8KYRyT5Xq1j%2FBW%2F9brh4luiy%2FbMPOQSmrOatooNMX5WXGkjBrjLUQxhDYME11gW93dg6aYxtv6SxbGkfok9aSfLbOlOzAE6GHs9LycjtioZ118nhw8t0%2BXhrre5zInuuZGs3kmcQeVigAkvmeT6KDwQGmrkzflLlgHkDyL%2FqhBbf3u89Zc%2FM0cVuhaGT1xybj7UREuUsO74SQOW33YldogX%2B1D%2B%2BAy%2BVqtzQISb5a1fAwfM8GOjs7UOkNlc6MF%2Bp6c2ESBl9C9yBg8vrB7zoTBk4NZqmE3L13yrmvSIIYUcDVRNYK%2BYv3GhD44zoHZnG8dckUJH5TWtXY1QBGbgRBImoGSMI8yZ06SGuo%2B2dgHvMTZmUPiMifrKCoJN17CYElE7ErYKDodhMQgCiv%2B6VnMW83Y8z5wKlTfmztTTLOQ%3D%3D&checksum=123687740905a14a3e2e63414dd88a9dfd34bb9bf51f

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-Ford-F600-Speedometer-Instrument-Cluster-DE1TF-10C956-B/143236335901?hash=item21598d091d:g:QmIAAOSwTGZcytC6

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-FORD-F600-USED-DASHBOARD-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-FOR-SALE/123687740905?epid=1786871364&hash=item1ccc5d25e9:g:9-MAAOSwIelchrPL

 

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Some of the lights above are different. The gauges [fuel, ammeter, fuel & oil pressure] are the same, I believe. "Gasoline" tachometer were 4500 RPMs and some speedometers were 75 MPH and later ones were electronic.

I have a medium duty speedometer in my truck. It does not offer trip odometer, does show 85 MPH and the odometer goes to 999,999.9.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-FORD-F600-USED-DASHBOARD-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-FOR-SALE/123687740905?epid=1786871364&hash=item1ccc5d25e9&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&enc=AQAFAAADYBzSmp%2BlJMyw7KXD8JmQDJwq2KgK5w%2BqG6dGvXQYDSFG%2F8W62SMLFfevcUsxDxFzIcPvjQgrMsVL5LPxDn5gSmxurXQxgNAznOLMm762i6A6f0vnJWVitDS5L6714gYNLP5f5nd6%2BZMAHusog3mvXPz%2BFB8ftKTI%2Bi6Tt%2BI1AvEJxVsns0iHEvZ%2FrklfXLs6SD1ljUfbmE26QRsuMU2Oot4j1RR59kGP8Tpc6vaV%2F4UEHBUFBTJYijkVe0RvMNxNBGQQWhkTmof40%2BmtrGggq7wdI9xY93Z4W7Cv5lvvqSVsYsXcPm57LMBV5WHkBa5bjlN%2B05sR9ysE77VWmhJ%2BZeN3tcBBlC%2BN0noW0RszgMNJnO6flR%2Fu1mUAwUQ6g9IKQ4vA1CGX89hAh1POIANa0gexUhnKE3%2BNERNpxRXwZaV1nO0VvLeP5vAqTXTzXj%2FElYLdR3Kt8ahzDNhKzbl5rNooh0cYX7%2Fw7PcptdHxITz4mcCndiSkVYN511qOXhAKh8TmmIxSal1FgnIJOwFFV1s8Qu0mxmPsF1KZJ%2FraXUj4%2F3lNjwn6h5zRANgKubSNwFfPP6105peQPsbl4Ka1f7BiEVwYOzJgaqIZZwteQfss6VnbXP3kAL5t%2BhhpvSDQ8m2UMTo3ZCebpQCtlVWKjXVzAdylMnLGEPEy7EpNTZpd4CNuM0yn%2FGeJ%2BXkIxOvd7tNeejPeUev4nsNu7OehKmlZ8KYRyT5Xq1j%2FBW%2F9brh4luiy%2FbMPOQSmrOatooNMX5WXGkjBrjLUQxhDYME11gW93dg6aYxtv6SxbGkfok9aSfLbOlOzAE6GHs9LycjtioZ118nhw8t0%2BXhrre5zInuuZGs3kmcQeVigAkvmeT6KDwQGmrkzflLlgHkDyL%2FqhBbf3u89Zc%2FM0cVuhaGT1xybj7UREuUsO74SQOW33YldogX%2B1D%2B%2BAy%2BVqtzQISb5a1fAwfM8GOjs7UOkNlc6MF%2Bp6c2ESBl9C9yBg8vrB7zoTBk4NZqmE3L13yrmvSIIYUcDVRNYK%2BYv3GhD44zoHZnG8dckUJH5TWtXY1QBGbgRBImoGSMI8yZ06SGuo%2B2dgHvMTZmUPiMifrKCoJN17CYElE7ErYKDodhMQgCiv%2B6VnMW83Y8z5wKlTfmztTTLOQ%3D%3D&checksum=123687740905a14a3e2e63414dd88a9dfd34bb9bf51f

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-Ford-F600-Speedometer-Instrument-Cluster-DE1TF-10C956-B/143236335901?hash=item21598d091d:g:QmIAAOSwTGZcytC6

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-FORD-F600-USED-DASHBOARD-INSTRUMENT-CLUSTER-FOR-SALE/123687740905?epid=1786871364&hash=item1ccc5d25e9:g:9-MAAOSwIelchrPL

When I pull the cluster, I'll let you know what I find. Thanks again!

David, sorry if I trashed your thread.

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When I pull the cluster, I'll let you know what I find. Thanks again!

David, sorry if I trashed your thread.

For the temp gauge you can also get a fitting that goes in the radiator hose to add the sender to.

It is made just for this, maybe Summit or Speedway Motors.

Only thing I think could be an issue is if electric gauge grounding the sender.

Depending on what hose you use could have the same issues as if it was in the stat housing

Dave ----

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For the temp gauge you can also get a fitting that goes in the radiator hose to add the sender to.

It is made just for this, maybe Summit or Speedway Motors.

Only thing I think could be an issue is if electric gauge grounding the sender.

Depending on what hose you use could have the same issues as if it was in the stat housing

Dave ----

I teed my aftermarket coolant temp gauge. Seems to work good.

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I teed my aftermarket coolant temp gauge. Seems to work good.

Got it all set up yesterday, oil pressure, I pulled the oil pressure sender and installed a T. This involved pulling the power steering pump off to get to the sender.

The temperature gauge, was installed on top of the thermostat housing. There was a sensor there with the top broken off, just a matter of replacing it.

With the voltage gauge I ran a wire to the battery side of the starter relay.

Once everything was set up I decided to recheck the voltage regulator for the dash gauges. I had installed a DE-SWADJ3, a couple of years ago. It was only putting out 4.8 volts, it got reset to 5.4. The gauges read better.

Still needing to do something about the fuel tank float, a full tank of gas only reads 1/2 tank of gas. So I have been using mileage as the refuel point. Thinking I will pull the bed off so it will be much easier to pull the float and adjust.

 

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Got it all set up yesterday, oil pressure, I pulled the oil pressure sender and installed a T. This involved pulling the power steering pump off to get to the sender.

The temperature gauge, was installed on top of the thermostat housing. There was a sensor there with the top broken off, just a matter of replacing it.

With the voltage gauge I ran a wire to the battery side of the starter relay.

Once everything was set up I decided to recheck the voltage regulator for the dash gauges. I had installed a DE-SWADJ3, a couple of years ago. It was only putting out 4.8 volts, it got reset to 5.4. The gauges read better.

Still needing to do something about the fuel tank float, a full tank of gas only reads 1/2 tank of gas. So I have been using mileage as the refuel point. Thinking I will pull the bed off so it will be much easier to pull the float and adjust.

Glad you got it going.

On the temp gauge, I've often wondered if having one sender in the block and one after the thermostat would let you watch the thermostat open. It sounds like you put the aftermarket sender in the thermostat housing, which is the way I'd suggest doing it as the factory gauge is very slow to react. But the aftermarket one is probably fast enough that you can see the change as the gauge opens. I'd be curious to know if that's the case.

As for the volt meter, do you have it tied in all the time? I'd be worried that it would pull the battery down when the engine isn't running. Have you checked the current draw of it?

And pulling the bed makes getting to the sender a lot easier. But that in and of itself isn't always easy as the bolts don't like to come out. However, if you can get them out that would be the way to do it.

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