Nothing Special's '71 Bronco

[Nothing Special]

I like this approach MUCH better! Not only does it put the burden back on those that caused the problem, it makes it easy to support at a later date. Plus, it cuts your workload down dramatically.

I think the work load is going the other direction. I don't have to cut the shaft or bearing, but now I'm going to have to put the axle together now and take it apart later to install the diff and axle shafts. Plus either I need to setup the gears with the axle under the Bronco or else I need to take it out AGAIN to put it up on the work bench where I was going to be doing the gear set up. Of course this does defer a lot of the work (including most of the extra work) until after this vacation. So that's a good thing. But I was REALLY looking forward to this project being DONE, and now that's pushed out at least another couple of weeks.

[Gary Lewis]

I think the work load is going the other direction. I don't have to cut the shaft or bearing, but now I'm going to have to put the axle together now and take it apart later to install the diff and axle shafts. Plus either I need to setup the gears with the axle under the Bronco or else I need to take it out AGAIN to put it up on the work bench where I was going to be doing the gear set up. Of course this does defer a lot of the work (including most of the extra work) until after this vacation. So that's a good thing. But I was REALLY looking forward to this project being DONE, and now that's pushed out at least another couple of weeks.

Yes, poor choice of words on my part. It not only defers the work to later but gives you more work to boot. However, there is less to do right now to get ready for the trip?

[Nothing Special]

Yes, poor choice of words on my part. It not only defers the work to later but gives you more work to boot. However, there is less to do right now to get ready for the trip?

Yes, that's the bright spot

[Nothing Special]

Yes, that's the bright spot

Well, "the best laid plans of mice and men...." I'm back to getting everything working in the first go-around. Lesley really didn't like the idea of doing anything to make this whole thing take longer. If it's not done before our trip we just won't bring it. We'll take bikes and just not go that far from camp instead.

Before I found that out I had some back-and-forth with Yukon's tech support. First he said that I can't check the shaft diameter with the black phosphate coating on and get a good read on the fit. Turns out he was right about that. With just a little effort with a scotch-brite pad I got the shaft OD down from 1.1273" to 1.1258". Figuring that the bearing ID is really close to 1.1250" that's still a .0008" press fit, but it's a lot better than the .0023" I thought I had.

He assures me that it's supposed to be a light press fit of .0005" - .001" and that I can tap it on with my hand, or maybe I'll need to use the handle end of a hammer. Personally I don't think a .0005" press fit is anywhere near light enough to go on by hand, but I'm going to try with it lubed as he recommended before I tell him again that I'm sure this piece was made wrong.

For what it's worth, the old pinion shaft is 1.1248", or a .0002" clearance. He said that poor quality gears will have clearance but industry standard is to have this "light press" to ensure that it stays on center.

But I decided to move to something else for a bit. Along with getting the axle buttoned up I also need to get the trans, transfer case and frame finished. So last night I started on that by taking the transfer case out (it had to come out to patch the frame).

The first problem I had was that it's now high enough that it won't slide back far enough to come off the trans before it hits a hat channel on the underside of the floor. So I had to remove the trans crossmember and lower the trans before I could get the transfer case off.

The second problem was purely self-inflicted. I was getting tired, frustrated and careless and I dropped the transfer case on my face. It's not as bad as it sounds, because it bounced twice before it hit my face, so it didn't hit that hard. My chest and shoulder absorbed most of it on those two bounces. All kidding aside, I'm fine, just a bruised collarbone. But I got really lucky that's all it was. So I called it quits at that point before I did anything even more stupid.

So while the trans crossmember was out, tonight I cleaned it up and slopped some paint on it. I was going to pull the trans out next, but realized that it really wasn't in the way (I'm glad I realized that BEFORE it was out!). So instead I finished bolting it to the bellhousing.

Then I patched the hole in the frame. I bought some 3/16" sheet metal. Most of it will go into the skid plate, but I got plenty to also patch the frame. It took quite a while, but it's done!

My first thought was to bend it rather than weld two pieces together, but I have no chance of bending 3/16" steel at home. i could heat it with a torch at work to bend it, but rather than wait until I could do that I just pieced it together. Some of the welds look a lot better than others, but I'll blame the worse ones on when I had sparks landing on me as I laid under my welding!

I will need to grind some parts of the welds smooth to avaoid interference with the trans crossmember and the transfer case, but this much was enough for tonight.

[Gary Lewis]

Well, "the best laid plans of mice and men...." I'm back to getting everything working in the first go-around. Lesley really didn't like the idea of doing anything to make this whole thing take longer. If it's not done before our trip we just won't bring it. We'll take bikes and just not go that far from camp instead.

Before I found that out I had some back-and-forth with Yukon's tech support. First he said that I can't check the shaft diameter with the black phosphate coating on and get a good read on the fit. Turns out he was right about that. With just a little effort with a scotch-brite pad I got the shaft OD down from 1.1273" to 1.1258". Figuring that the bearing ID is really close to 1.1250" that's still a .0008" press fit, but it's a lot better than the .0023" I thought I had.

He assures me that it's supposed to be a light press fit of .0005" - .001" and that I can tap it on with my hand, or maybe I'll need to use the handle end of a hammer. Personally I don't think a .0005" press fit is anywhere near light enough to go on by hand, but I'm going to try with it lubed as he recommended before I tell him again that I'm sure this piece was made wrong.

For what it's worth, the old pinion shaft is 1.1248", or a .0002" clearance. He said that poor quality gears will have clearance but industry standard is to have this "light press" to ensure that it stays on center.

But I decided to move to something else for a bit. Along with getting the axle buttoned up I also need to get the trans, transfer case and frame finished. So last night I started on that by taking the transfer case out (it had to come out to patch the frame).

The first problem I had was that it's now high enough that it won't slide back far enough to come off the trans before it hits a hat channel on the underside of the floor. So I had to remove the trans crossmember and lower the trans before I could get the transfer case off.

The second problem was purely self-inflicted. I was getting tired, frustrated and careless and I dropped the transfer case on my face. It's not as bad as it sounds, because it bounced twice before it hit my face, so it didn't hit that hard. My chest and shoulder absorbed most of it on those two bounces. All kidding aside, I'm fine, just a bruised collarbone. But I got really lucky that's all it was. So I called it quits at that point before I did anything even more stupid.

So while the trans crossmember was out, tonight I cleaned it up and slopped some paint on it. I was going to pull the trans out next, but realized that it really wasn't in the way (I'm glad I realized that BEFORE it was out!). So instead I finished bolting it to the bellhousing.

Then I patched the hole in the frame. I bought some 3/16" sheet metal. Most of it will go into the skid plate, but I got plenty to also patch the frame. It took quite a while, but it's done!

My first thought was to bend it rather than weld two pieces together, but I have no chance of bending 3/16" steel at home. i could heat it with a torch at work to bend it, but rather than wait until I could do that I just pieced it together. Some of the welds look a lot better than others, but I'll blame the worse ones on when I had sparks landing on me as I laid under my welding!

I will need to grind some parts of the welds smooth to avaoid interference with the trans crossmember and the transfer case, but this much was enough for tonight.

You had a productive night, in spite of the bouncing transfer case. I'm glad there was no real damage done, 'cause it could have been much much worse.

As for the pinion shaft, I didn't realize there is a coating on it. Taking that off made a big difference. I think .0008" interference will be easy to overcome, and you could chill the shaft or heat the bearing to make it even easier. And even getting it off shouldn't be too bad.

The patch looks good, and it shouldn't take much grinding to have it smooth enough.

Progress!

[Nothing Special]

You had a productive night, in spite of the bouncing transfer case. I'm glad there was no real damage done, 'cause it could have been much much worse.

As for the pinion shaft, I didn't realize there is a coating on it. Taking that off made a big difference. I think .0008" interference will be easy to overcome, and you could chill the shaft or heat the bearing to make it even easier. And even getting it off shouldn't be too bad.

The patch looks good, and it shouldn't take much grinding to have it smooth enough.

Progress!

Chilling the shaft could help with the install. But as I'm putting it in and out trying to get the pinion depth right I don't see any way to chill it while it'a assembled in the axle. And I could play a torch on the bearing to heat it while it's in the axle, but that seems like a risky move too, especially if I need to get very far with it. Honestly this part of the project has me really discouraged.

So yes, it was good to make some visible progress!

[Gary Lewis]

Chilling the shaft could help with the install. But as I'm putting it in and out trying to get the pinion depth right I don't see any way to chill it while it'a assembled in the axle. And I could play a torch on the bearing to heat it while it's in the axle, but that seems like a risky move too, especially if I need to get very far with it. Honestly this part of the project has me really discouraged.

So yes, it was good to make some visible progress!

I'm hoping that tapping the end of the pinion shaft will get it to come off/out easily enough. But it is kind of scary thinking it might not come out. I guess it is best to put them together at room temp just to see.

Good luck!

[Nothing Special]

I'm hoping that tapping the end of the pinion shaft will get it to come off/out easily enough. But it is kind of scary thinking it might not come out. I guess it is best to put them together at room temp just to see.

Good luck!

I tried tapping the bearing on the pinion shaft. I guess you could say that it worked, if you consider taking full swings with a 32 oz ball peen hammer "tapping." There's no way I'm putting it together like this, I wouldn't be able to disassemble it without wrecking the bearing. At this point I can't imagine that Yukon is going to be able (or willing) to provide me with anything that will work well, so I think I'm back to the plan of making the parts I have fit. The good thing is now that it's only .0008" of steel to remove instead of .0023" I think I can do it with sandpaper, which will make chucking it in the lathe easier (since I don't need to worry about how a cutting tool will reach in) and give less chance of introducing runout.

As to progress, I did make a little. Last week I made some "weld nuts" by drilling and tapping 3" long pieces of 3/4" round stock. Yesterday I drilled 3/4" holes in both sides of the frame to weld two of these in each frame rail (the round stock is welded to both the inner and outer side of the frame rail). These will be the mounting points for the skid plate.

Anyway, today I welded them in and ground down all of the welds that were going to be in the way. Then I put a little paint on the bare spots and called it good for the weekend.

Once the paint is dry I'll be ready to put the transfer case back in for the last time and start hooking up shift linkages (or at least seeing how hard it will be to do that with everything up higher!)

[Gary Lewis]

I tried tapping the bearing on the pinion shaft. I guess you could say that it worked, if you consider taking full swings with a 32 oz ball peen hammer "tapping." There's no way I'm putting it together like this, I wouldn't be able to disassemble it without wrecking the bearing. At this point I can't imagine that Yukon is going to be able (or willing) to provide me with anything that will work well, so I think I'm back to the plan of making the parts I have fit. The good thing is now that it's only .0008" of steel to remove instead of .0023" I think I can do it with sandpaper, which will make chucking it in the lathe easier (since I don't need to worry about how a cutting tool will reach in) and give less chance of introducing runout.

As to progress, I did make a little. Last week I made some "weld nuts" by drilling and tapping 3" long pieces of 3/4" round stock. Yesterday I drilled 3/4" holes in both sides of the frame to weld two of these in each frame rail (the round stock is welded to both the inner and outer side of the frame rail). These will be the mounting points for the skid plate.

Anyway, today I welded them in and ground down all of the welds that were going to be in the way. Then I put a little paint on the bare spots and called it good for the weekend.

Once the paint is dry I'll be ready to put the transfer case back in for the last time and start hooking up shift linkages (or at least seeing how hard it will be to do that with everything up higher!)

I agree, that's too much force to ever get it apart w/o damage. And I agree that you should be able to take enough off with sandpaper to let you get it together easily. But it is a shame you are having to do that with brand new parts.

But the weld nuts sound cool. Did you drill them on the lathe? That would be my first choice.

[Nothing Special]

I agree, that's too much force to ever get it apart w/o damage. And I agree that you should be able to take enough off with sandpaper to let you get it together easily. But it is a shame you are having to do that with brand new parts.

But the weld nuts sound cool. Did you drill them on the lathe? That would be my first choice.

Yep, tapped them there too. And actually I drilled them out to just over 3/8" ID about 2" deep from one end, then drilled and tapped them for 3/8-16 for the remaining 1" from the other end. I don't need a 3" long nut!