Gary Lewis Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Guys - I think I'm a pretty well-organized guy. In fact, there are those amoung you that will say "Yes, he has it, and it is in that drawer labeled XYZ." But, when it comes to the website, meaning the pages on the Garagemahal other than this forum, I don't think it is very well organized. A case in point: Brandon just asked for info on the fasteners associated with the 351W engine. So, if you were looking for that info, where would you look? The Fasteners set of pages? Or the Engines set of pages? And where would you look for "speed control" info? Would you think to look in "Underhood"? Yes, perhaps half of the components are truly under the hood, but what about the electronic module and the horn pad which are in the cab? So, I need someone(s) who is/are good at organization to step back from the trees and look at the forest, and then make some suggestions. You don't really have to know how a website works. Instead, look at what we have and try to come up with a way to organize it to make it easier to find things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On the RockAuto web site, if you use the search feature and type in what you are looking for, several catagories [is that what you call them?] change [go to bold] and you can look in each until you find the part. The site kind of guides you to where the information is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 On the RockAuto web site, if you use the search feature and type in what you are looking for, several catagories [is that what you call them?] change [go to bold] and you can look in each until you find the part. The site kind of guides you to where the information is. David - Thanks, but the Garagemahal has a similar feature, if I understand what you are saying. At the bottom of every page is a "Google Custom Search" line. If you type in "cruise control" and hit enter you'll get the page shown below. Everything above the faint line between Car Cruise Control and Bullnose Enthusiasts is what Google found on the outside, and below that line is what it found on the inside. I frequently use that to find things I've put in a "logical place" but still can't find. However, what I'm hoping to do it to figure out how to put things in "logical places" where everyone can find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpin Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 David - Thanks, but the Garagemahal has a similar feature, if I understand what you are saying. At the bottom of every page is a "Google Custom Search" line. If you type in "cruise control" and hit enter you'll get the page shown below. Everything above the faint line between Car Cruise Control and Bullnose Enthusiasts is what Google found on the outside, and below that line is what it found on the inside. I frequently use that to find things I've put in a "logical place" but still can't find. However, what I'm hoping to do it to figure out how to put things in "logical places" where everyone can find them. First, I have no clue... What popped into my mind though, is that while I was looking to buy a UJM (Universal Japanese Motorcycle) I found that the four manufacturers put things in different places in their parts manuals. For instance the chain would be found in the transmission section on one, but in the rear swingarm, wheels and tires and rear suspension on the others. I'm thinking place them where Ford does in the manuals and fiche, seems some people (you) have these available, which could help those of us who don't have parts manuals yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 First, I have no clue... What popped into my mind though, is that while I was looking to buy a UJM (Universal Japanese Motorcycle) I found that the four manufacturers put things in different places in their parts manuals. For instance the chain would be found in the transmission section on one, but in the rear swingarm, wheels and tires and rear suspension on the others. I'm thinking place them where Ford does in the manuals and fiche, seems some people (you) have these available, which could help those of us who don't have parts manuals yet. Hmmm, I think someone suggested that a year or two ago - and I didn't listen. Let me see how I could incorporate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Hmmm, I think someone suggested that a year or two ago - and I didn't listen. Let me see how I could incorporate that. I've outlined the master parts catalog, shown below, and I don't see it as being very helpful. They have odd things grouped together, like: 170: Jacks, Speedometer, Cables Huh? 180: Shock Absorbers and Heaters Yeah, sure. I see the connection. NOT! Anyway, you folks tell me what you think, please. Master Parts Catalog Index 10: Wheels 11: Hubs & Drums 20: Brakes 22: Brakes, rear 23: Brakes, booster 30: Front Axle & Suspension 32: Front Axle & Suspension 35: Steering Gear 36: Steering Wheel 40: Rear Axle & Related Parts 41: Rear Axle 46: Driveshaft 48: Coupling Shaft 50: Frame 52: Muffler 53: Front Springs & Stabilizer 60: Engine Parts 70: Transmission, Manual A70: Transmission, kits A71: Transmission, linkage 80: Radiator, grille, and cooling 86: Fan, belt drive 90: Fuel Tank & Lines 93: Fuel Pump & Gauge 94: Fuel Pump, mounting 95: Carburetor 95A: Carburetor Assembly 96: Air Cleaner 103: Alternator 110: Starter, Ignition Switch & Headlamp 120: Coil, Distributor, Spark Plugs 130: Headlamps, Parking Lamps, & Turn Indicators 140: Wiring, Main 144: Wiring marking 150: Wiring, Clock, Lighter 160: Front Fenders & Apron 170: Jacks, Speedometer, Cables 180: Shock Absorbers and Heaters 190: Radio 197: Refrigerant Lines Body: 000: Body Assemblies, Vents, Dash, Windshield, Instrument Panel 200: Front Door, Weatherstrips, Mouldings 260: Rear Door, Weatherstrips, Mouldings, Quarter Panel 400: Tailgate, Back Window, Roof 600: Seats, Hinges, Seat Tracks Soft Trim Parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpin Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I've outlined the master parts catalog, shown below, and I don't see it as being very helpful. They have odd things grouped together, like: 170: Jacks, Speedometer, Cables Huh? 180: Shock Absorbers and Heaters Yeah, sure. I see the connection. NOT! Anyway, you folks tell me what you think, please. Master Parts Catalog Index 10: Wheels 11: Hubs & Drums 20: Brakes 22: Brakes, rear 23: Brakes, booster 30: Front Axle & Suspension 32: Front Axle & Suspension 35: Steering Gear 36: Steering Wheel 40: Rear Axle & Related Parts 41: Rear Axle 46: Driveshaft 48: Coupling Shaft 50: Frame 52: Muffler 53: Front Springs & Stabilizer 60: Engine Parts 70: Transmission, Manual A70: Transmission, kits A71: Transmission, linkage 80: Radiator, grille, and cooling 86: Fan, belt drive 90: Fuel Tank & Lines 93: Fuel Pump & Gauge 94: Fuel Pump, mounting 95: Carburetor 95A: Carburetor Assembly 96: Air Cleaner 103: Alternator 110: Starter, Ignition Switch & Headlamp 120: Coil, Distributor, Spark Plugs 130: Headlamps, Parking Lamps, & Turn Indicators 140: Wiring, Main 144: Wiring marking 150: Wiring, Clock, Lighter 160: Front Fenders & Apron 170: Jacks, Speedometer, Cables 180: Shock Absorbers and Heaters 190: Radio 197: Refrigerant Lines Body: 000: Body Assemblies, Vents, Dash, Windshield, Instrument Panel 200: Front Door, Weatherstrips, Mouldings 260: Rear Door, Weatherstrips, Mouldings, Quarter Panel 400: Tailgate, Back Window, Roof 600: Seats, Hinges, Seat Tracks Soft Trim Parts Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Wow! Yes, "Wow!" I think we can do better than that. In fact, my thinking is that the current method of organization is better than that. But, I think the current way isn't as good as we can do, so I'm looking for suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Yes, "Wow!" I think we can do better than that. In fact, my thinking is that the current method of organization is better than that. But, I think the current way isn't as good as we can do, so I'm looking for suggestions. How are the basic part numbers organized? Is there some denominator that would make sense to most of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 How are the basic part numbers organized? Is there some denominator that would make sense to most of us? First, let me say that the master parts catalog is the best thing since sliced bread, and I don't know how you fully disassemble and then successfully reassemble something as complex as these trucks w/o one. But, the organization of the catalog isn't its strongest attribute. The basic part numbers are supposed to follow the section numbering shown in the earlier post. However, they seem to have run out of numbers at times and insert letters, like 17A254. And, there are lots of exceptions to the numbering plan. For instance, the first numbered section is Section 10 - Wheels. And, one would think that the first thing you would encounter in that section would be a listing of wheels. However, the first thing is 1001 GASKET (REAR WHEEL BEARING RETAINER or REAR AXLE SHAFT). But, Section 40 is Rear Axle! And then there are the weird combinations of "stuff" in one section. Like Section 170 which includes jacks, speedometers, and cables. So, a jack handle is 17081, a tachometer opening cover is 17187, and a speedometer cable tip kit is 17A254. Or shocks that are in Section 180 so have the basic part number of 18124. But heaters are there as well, which explains 18246 WINDOW SHADE KIT? Anyway, basic part numbers are supposed to follow the section numbering. Does that answer the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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