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Looks great, Alex! Well done!

I particularly like your wheels. They are some of my favorites, and not often seen with 8 lugs.

The wheels came off off a 1989 Ford Bronco Centurion conversion. I think that they maybe factory? Not the easiest to find lugs for, since they're not your typical "AR Outlaw 2 Modulars". These use the Mag wheel style lug nut with the washers, especially difficult when you have one hub with LH thread.

FYI Gorilla Automotive Lug Nut PN

75197 RH Std Length Head 9/16-18

75197L LH Std Length Head 9/16-18

75197XL RH Taller Head 9/16-18

75197LXL LH Taller Head 9/16-18 (could not find these in-stock anywhere however, while I'm writing this post, Summit Racing anticipates that their shipment arrives in May)

Floor Pans this weekend.....

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The wheels came off off a 1989 Ford Bronco Centurion conversion. I think that they maybe factory? Not the easiest to find lugs for, since they're not your typical "AR Outlaw 2 Modulars". These use the Mag wheel style lug nut with the washers, especially difficult when you have one hub with LH thread.

FYI Gorilla Automotive Lug Nut PN

75197 RH Std Length Head 9/16-18

75197L LH Std Length Head 9/16-18

75197XL RH Taller Head 9/16-18

75197LXL LH Taller Head 9/16-18 (could not find these in-stock anywhere however, while I'm writing this post, Summit Racing anticipates that their shipment arrives in May)

Floor Pans this weekend.....

Can anyone confirm this is a Dana 50? or Dana 44HD? I think hat its a Dana 50? I'm interested in rebuilding this axle soon so I'll need to get this right before I order parts. I'm also interested in a Air or E-Locker, but I'm not sure that make for a Dana 50.

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Can anyone confirm this is a Dana 50? or Dana 44HD? I think hat its a Dana 50? I'm interested in rebuilding this axle soon so I'll need to get this right before I order parts. I'm also interested in a Air or E-Locker, but I'm not sure that make for a Dana 50.

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I can't see anything in relation to the wheel or proportions of it.but just over 3 1/4" seems like D-44.

A D-50:has hubs with very little taper, and 50 cast on the pinion side of the diff.

Take a look at the lockout from the side.

Do the hub sides look like they would eventually converge to you?

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Can anyone confirm this is a Dana 50? or Dana 44HD? I think hat its a Dana 50? I'm interested in rebuilding this axle soon so I'll need to get this right before I order parts. I'm also interested in a Air or E-Locker, but I'm not sure that make for a Dana 50.

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Hi Alex,

I can't see the photos you posted for some reason, but my understanding is the D50 only came on the F250HD (GVWR >8500lbs) between 80 and 86 and has a much beefier 4" "soup can" type hub as mentioned. It wasn't until 87 that the D50 became standard on all F250s.

Also, I have the same wheels and tires on my truck. I got the wheels aftermarket. Are those tires 235/85R16?

That BFG all-terrain tread has worn well over time and I like pizza cutter profile for the snow.

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Hi Alex,

I can't see the photos you posted for some reason, but my understanding is the D50 only came on the F250HD (GVWR >8500lbs) between 80 and 86 and has a much beefier 4" "soup can" type hub as mentioned. It wasn't until 87 that the D50 became standard on all F250s.

Also, I have the same wheels and tires on my truck. I got the wheels aftermarket. Are those tires 235/85R16?

That BFG all-terrain tread has worn well over time and I like pizza cutter profile for the snow.

Lucas these tires are 245/75 R16, They're remolds from Treadwright, but I've put at least 3000 miles on them and they're solid, Load Range E.

I added some more Pics in my earlier post that may help define this front axle.

Thanks for the help,

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I can't see anything in relation to the wheel or proportions of it.but just over 3 1/4" seems like D-44.

A D-50:has hubs with very little taper, and 50 cast on the pinion side of the diff.

Take a look at the lockout from the side.

Do the hub sides look like they would eventually converge to you?

Jim, you typed that it looks like a D44, did you mean a D44HD? I looked and was confused by the images in another forum BlueOval Trucks:

https://www.blueovaltrucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dana_44_and_dana_44hd_dana_50_ttb_beam_comparison.jpg

"Above is a comparison between the Dana 44HD TTB / Dana 50 TTB axle beam (top) and the normal Dana 44 TTB axle beam (bottom)"

I'm confused I think mine looks more like the D50....?

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Jim, you typed that it looks like a D44, did you mean a D44HD? I looked and was confused by the images in another forum BlueOval Trucks:

https://www.blueovaltrucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dana_44_and_dana_44hd_dana_50_ttb_beam_comparison.jpg

"Above is a comparison between the Dana 44HD TTB / Dana 50 TTB axle beam (top) and the normal Dana 44 TTB axle beam (bottom)"

I'm confused I think mine looks more like the D50....?

Does anyone know what they offer for E- or Air Lockers for this D44 HD Diff? I'm running the carrier for 3.55s and with the T18 I doubt Ill be running anything lower unless I get into something taller than 35"s

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Does anyone know what they offer for E- or Air Lockers for this D44 HD Diff? I'm running the carrier for 3.55s and with the T18 I doubt Ill be running anything lower unless I get into something taller than 35"s

OX Lockers offer a locker for the D44. I'm running one of theirs in my D60, but haven't really used it yet. However, their customer support has been excellent.

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