Bulletproof250 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I was just about to dig into the front brakes, and just realized that the rotors are not slip on's. before I start trying my buddy's hub socket, is there a difference between the Dana 44 and the Dana 44HD, or a Dana 50? hub nut socket that I should be concerned about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing Special Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Dana 44 and Dana 44HD spindle nuts are the same. The spanner has 4 dogs that engage the 4 slots in the spindle nuts. The Dana 50 and Dana 60 use the same spanner as each other. I think it has 6 dogs, but don't quote me on that. I'm pretty sure it's different from the Dana 44/44HD spanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Dana 44 and Dana 44HD spindle nuts are the same. The spanner has 4 dogs that engage the 4 slots in the spindle nuts. The Dana 50 and Dana 60 use the same spanner as each other. I think it has 6 dogs, but don't quote me on that. I'm pretty sure it's different from the Dana 44/44HD spanner. Bob/Nothing Special is right. D44 & D44HD use the same socket, so you should be good to go. But make sure you remember to pull the large snap ring before you worry because you can't get the parts out. It takes a small screwdriver or a pick to pry it out of its recess. And take pics of the order the parts come out it. It isn't intuitive to me, especially the nuts and lock washers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Bob/Nothing Special is right. D44 & D44HD use the same socket, so you should be good to go. But make sure you remember to pull the large snap ring before you worry because you can't get the parts out. It takes a small screwdriver or a pick to pry it out of its recess. And take pics of the order the parts come out it. It isn't intuitive to me, especially the nuts and lock washers. I have the tool with both sockets in one, as well as a D44 socket.(or two) Unfortunately, due to the current stay at home order I'm not going to bring it to you. Gary, I well remember telling you there were two snap rings when you were first trying to get the hubs off. You're right, it's not entirely intuitive. Things were a lot more challenging back before we all had a digital camera in our pockets. As a kid I completely disassembled the lawnmower. It stretched from one end of the garage to the other and halfway back again. My mother really tanned my hide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletproof250 Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 I have the tool with both sockets in one, as well as a D44 socket.(or two) Unfortunately, due to the current stay at home order I'm not going to bring it to you. Gary, I well remember telling you there were two snap rings when you were first trying to get the hubs off. You're right, it's not entirely intuitive. Things were a lot more challenging back before we all had a digital camera in our pockets. As a kid I completely disassembled the lawnmower. It stretched from one end of the garage to the other and halfway back again. My mother really tanned my hide! Thanks again. Jim, I'm sure that's what we all did at one time, (Gear-heads unite!). LOL I will definitely looking for the 2-in-1 tool that you have. From what I hear, should I be confident that it is NOT A Dana 50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Thanks again. Jim, I'm sure that's what we all did at one time, (Gear-heads unite!). LOL I will definitely looking for the 2-in-1 tool that you have. From what I hear, should I be confident that it is NOT A Dana 50? A Dana 50 has the same 'soup can' hub as a D60. There is no taper. I'll get you the number on my tool. If you want to, click on my username and send me an email with your address. I can post a socket to you. It will certainly cost less than the ~$50 that a quality hub socket costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 A Dana 50 has the same 'soup can' hub as a D60. There is no taper. I'll get you the number on my tool. If you want to, click on my username and send me an email with your address. I can post a socket to you. It will certainly cost less than the ~$50 that a quality hub socket costs. Going to ship something is the only outing we are going to have had in the last week. But I'll wear a mask and gloves to do so. And I've done the ordered-disassembly many times. But you are right, the digital camera has made a world of difference. And I remember the discussion on the snap ring. I didn't believe it was there, but after the 2nd or 3rd "trust me, it is there" I found it. So trust me Alex, it is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 A Dana 50 has the same 'soup can' hub as a D60. There is no taper. I'll get you the number on my tool. If you want to, click on my username and send me an email with your address. I can post a socket to you. It will certainly cost less than the ~$50 that a quality hub socket costs. These are the two quality sockets I have. The other is stamped steel, more akin to a filter wrench, but it seems to work fine, especially if you are just R&R, without having to torque the heck out of it to seat a new bearing race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletproof250 Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 These are the two quality sockets I have. The other is stamped steel, more akin to a filter wrench, but it seems to work fine, especially if you are just R&R, without having to torque the heck out of it to seat a new bearing race. Manned with my best friends confidence "...this is the right socket, and if it's not, I made this one..." As he handed it to me, it was quickly evident, that this "custom work" was definitely made out of desperation and in a definite haste. but If it works I'll be sure to post a photo, It'll be a conversation-piece for sure. ....and if it doesn't, I'll be sending someone my address and begging to have the correct tool sent to me. Thank you all for busting out to dig up that stash of "special tools" I'll know by 4:00PM ET Stay tuned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletproof250 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Manned with my best friends confidence "...this is the right socket, and if it's not, I made this one..." As he handed it to me, it was quickly evident, that this "custom work" was definitely made out of desperation and in a definite haste. but If it works I'll be sure to post a photo, It'll be a conversation-piece for sure. ....and if it doesn't, I'll be sending someone my address and begging to have the correct tool sent to me. Thank you all for busting out to dig up that stash of "special tools" I'll know by 4:00PM ET Stay tuned.... It is now apart, I did end up needing a socket. Not a huge problem, it was available fro my local Advance guys, $21 sounded affordable enough knowing that I'll be digging back into these hubs again while I own the truck. All that I had to do was, don my COVID mask and gloves, and head out to get it. Dana 44HD Expanded view https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/83JDDPqn_iTXeNbEdLZulhi9Nm_WRN1VyPNSUOabZpT3psVe1QGTCwJKDbJzt8Wx-620ExsGKIp88uOv1e-w3nqjhs4vT9xfLQse-8dI1nHmIO8bBmgo91HK3PaDlzfojv_jYDqfBA=w2400 The Hub https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qmPF15fdQfEygzrwqtGE6xyfNALDS0Et-VtrI5qI8wBWTFH1_g8w198ScYMl_lqfD3_kAzDOIVZpkTkycWVMgkBEreUHZV7gkUoHFvfxeNXbNsuu5OqbyRlzvPTIC4bOOxOSlygcow=w2400 The Locking Hub https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3ms7_keVARgS03q7BX7SZzDXn3qO7ZxjwZrOmPv5k14fgAHInAJ89n1yPpEK4yWYfr8bmpNop0NgKyQB9G74SDHmNNxJbL0_hYU_Yi2m0pkvoQM3PWkbRzeh5m4lKuhA1COo27dQig=w2400 Locking Hub Romoved https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/hTk1S9ScoyjATrAxfGMmGuYzIW1NacxpttvNbub_i-70UUf1AlQJ2qXFZWFZ5rD2-xVJSB9v9wdkndm24nzKwUKe-pZcVnKtudpssHEs89dUYeuqjiYG2mVNfS6Ben4enZO4jA_yPg=w2400 Snap Ring removal https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Oc-3jMRI4rQq-5DITSEb9iy0b09mrDPiT0A43JXRsYZwDrMApcSfFNWqW8Ojqnb33pGAswK-lvCauwbszzJpynYgYJZDt5aTAWWx4EZ5aSHQlsyhoYms1U6GsXBwswhz_GeUD3mF7g=w2400 Snap Ring and lock removed https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/482QtVvOihFsDaR8G_wH7d2Vm2r5h2tzQjkUZDvktpWlYO_QMyl3mxc8Z00R6mJ66z3inbWnXPn83ttsaH8-L5UwgDUorcU1yAd7gg2ZO3dGy93WbdbsNiSBWlR6T9gQEqEKPP33JQ=w2400 As promised I've provided the Non working sockets that were suggested to me: Socket doesn't fit: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/811N4eyjwcGR6kVNMfLfdexz0h6GLTWHTbpTnB7vm2udi9NXdxRlloZMZ799n-yTuoT5rQ-pmTOV6inO99oTj80wqa98VXCldqY7O0hIzygxS0gCBFQHZPbh2V0b1VT2H1LGp-u4mw=w2400 Sad Socket: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1KKAwy8ztEsnxVLHpDIHZQ8H9pUKlCXxu41bsGHLvMYos42SReU9Gd6dVzYFH3WwZgPksP_pyb9W7GMVFx0iCTZKNmHdrkRT0isIJuKv5zHqXr1495Ly4_1NEjOTiRfY_9qZfLpWVg=w2400 Would have put it back together but, I think it warrants at least replacing the seals: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ZHBiM92AmvGIjIpQoCPFxluHRiBbZz9sBx8OGWLSJQOXwWBxsH6a7LYjo8PNIOoNw4jmU78NOjXsV8vlRRonXaiEE04bgeof1XGUjk2GT0ni9-QJvuBI6bvao6KfNxDcCttzoyAnzg=w2400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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