Dyn Blin Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I’m hoping to leverage the collective wisdom here: As I was changing my oil today, I noticed what appears to be a disconnected sensor/sending unit and connector. As you can see from the photos, the connector has been melted, likely from sitting on the manifold. Interestingly, the connector doesn’t quite reach the sensor from the PO’s zip tie of the wire to the harness. Evidently, it has not been connected for some time, if ever. It's at the end of the pick-up tube where the sending unit for the gauge connects, too. Is this a sensor and connector for an oil pressure warning light? (I have a dash gauge) (photos look just over the oil filter on the right side of the engine as you look from the hood.) As an aside, my gauge has been reading high side (up to the very edge of the "normal"band) until the thermostat opens in the mornings over the last week, but it hasn't been too cold here (in the mid-30's)). I pulled the sensor that was connected and attached a pressure gauge which read 57 PSI at 2000 RPM, which seems to be within spec according the service manual. I'm running 10W-30 with a Mobil M1 filter. *(Engine is either a Windsor 302 or 351 -there’s a long story as to why I’m not yet sure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Mark - I had an '82 and if I remember correctly it had both and oil pressure sending unit, for the gauge, and an oil pressure switch, for the computer. But that's what I think you have. In fact, if you were to follow that wire back I'd bet it goes, or went, to the computer under the driver's seat. I don't have the '82 EVTM on line. In fact, I'm not sure I have one. However, I'll check tomorrow to see if I can find the schematic for the ECU that used an oil pressure switch. As for the oil pressure, that's not bad for a cold engine. Seems like it is pretty tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 Mark - I had an '82 and if I remember correctly it had both and oil pressure sending unit, for the gauge, and an oil pressure switch, for the computer. But that's what I think you have. In fact, if you were to follow that wire back I'd bet it goes, or went, to the computer under the driver's seat. I don't have the '82 EVTM on line. In fact, I'm not sure I have one. However, I'll check tomorrow to see if I can find the schematic for the ECU that used an oil pressure switch. As for the oil pressure, that's not bad for a cold engine. Seems like it is pretty tight. Thanks Gary, I figured that must be it, or the belt & suspenders approach for a transitional year or option. I have an '82 EVTM on it's way, too. Happy to share it if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Thanks Gary, I figured that must be it, or the belt & suspenders approach for a transitional year or option. I have an '82 EVTM on it's way, too. Happy to share it if needed. What I found on my '82 was that the computer and its wiring was completely separate from the rest of the truck's wiring. I was able to take the computer out and remove all of its sensors and wiring w/o changing any other wiring on the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 *(Engine is either a Windsor 302 or 351 -there’s a long story as to why I’m not yet sure) The simplest way for me to tell is to look where the ds waterpump boss meets the block. Is the head almost touching, or is there an inch or more of block showing? it is a good reference point for you to see the extra stroke of a 351W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 *(Engine is either a Windsor 302 or 351 -there’s a long story as to why I’m not yet sure) The simplest way for me to tell is to look where the ds waterpump boss meets the block. Is the head almost touching, or is there an inch or more of block showing? it is a good reference point for you to see the extra stroke of a 351W. Thanks for that. The VIN indicates a 302 from the factory. The PO mentioned he acquired it with a rebuilt 351, but had no other verification or provenience of the alleged swap. It was such a great deal, I didn't really care enough to make it a deeper dive prior to the sale. There's indeed about 1" of distance between the planes of the water pump boss and deck shelf, which would indicate a 351. However, when I had to source and re-install the emissions equipment to pass the acquisition inspection and smog test, I used the Ford '82 Car & Truck Engine/Emissions Facts Book Summary as a guide. It reflects some differences between the set-ups for the CA variants of 302 and 351, and mine matched the 302 in practice & execution. In my haste to get it "legal" to pass emissions and update the registration, I didn't think to look at casting numbers to verify when I had the emissions, air and carb off. See? Long story. One of these days I'll check the casting numbers and/or simply pull a plug and turn it by hand to measure the stroke and figure it out once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Thanks for that. The VIN indicates a 302 from the factory. The PO mentioned he acquired it with a rebuilt 351, but had no other verification or provenience of the alleged swap. It was such a great deal, I didn't really care enough to make it a deeper dive prior to the sale. There's indeed about 1" of distance between the planes of the water pump boss and deck shelf, which would indicate a 351. However, when I had to source and re-install the emissions equipment to pass the acquisition inspection and smog test, I used the Ford '82 Car & Truck Engine/Emissions Facts Book Summary as a guide. It reflects some differences between the set-ups for the CA variants of 302 and 351, and mine matched the 302 in practice & execution. In my haste to get it "legal" to pass emissions and update the registration, I didn't think to look at casting numbers to verify when I had the emissions, air and carb off. See? Long story. One of these days I'll check the casting numbers and/or simply pull a plug and turn it by hand to measure the stroke and figure it out once and for all. If it has the extra deck height it has to be a 351. I can imagine when the P.O. put the engine in he put back all the 302 emissions stuff and it would look legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If it has the extra deck height it has to be a 351. I can imagine when the P.O. put the engine in he put back all the 302 emissions stuff and it would look legit. Amen. Must be a 351W, but with all the emissions stuff, and the inspector is none the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Ok. I'm going to put it in my signature, so it must be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Ok. I'm going to put it in my signature, so it must be true! That'll make it true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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