Johnbi Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I installed a 4” lift an the truck . Now it has positive camber are the original upper ball joints adjustable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Can't see your pic, but you need drop pivots, adjustable camber bushings, an extended pitman arm AND a knowledgeable alignment shop to make that work. Trust me, I've had my 250HD for 32 years, and I know my alignment guy well enough to be invited to his house for holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Can't see your pic, but you need drop pivots, adjustable camber bushings, an extended pitman arm AND a knowledgeable alignment shop to make that work. Trust me, I've had my 250HD for 32 years, and I know my alignment guy well enough to be invited to his house for holidays. It isn't the ball joints themselves that adjust, but the bushings or eccentrics Jim mentioned. And the truck had adjustable bushings, but they only had a very limited range. I use Moog's bushings, as shown below, which give the widest range of adjustment I can find. But even then you'll have to do what Jim described to get it properly aligned. The bushing on the top is probably a stock bushing, and the one on the bottom is the Moog fully adjustable one. With the stock one you get two settings. With the bottom one you get 6 on the outer part and something like 25 on the inner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbi Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 Can't see your pic, but you need drop pivots, adjustable camber bushings, an extended pitman arm AND a knowledgeable alignment shop to make that work. Trust me, I've had my 250HD for 32 years, and I know my alignment guy well enough to be invited to his house for holidays. I put the drop pitman arm on and the axle drop brackets but the shop it’s at says it’s 4 degrees out and they can only find sleeves that go 2 degrees so they are going to look for adjustable ball joints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I put the drop pitman arm on and the axle drop brackets but the shop it’s at says it’s 4 degrees out and they can only find sleeves that go 2 degrees so they are going to look for adjustable ball joints Right there they wrote themselves out of my book. First, it's hard to believe that you are over 4* out if you used drop brackets, new pivot bushings and the correct springs. Moog are -.75 - +2.75 Iirc, and Jimmy and his crew have never failed to get one back well within spec. (Sometimes not dead nuts on, but always very close. Safe and comfortable) There are other (off road) companies that make ones with more adjustment, but the sleeves get thin at that point. Be aware, that reversing a TTB truck will mess with camber and toe in. So don't back into a space and look at your tires in shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyn Blin Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Right there they wrote themselves out of my book. First, it's hard to believe that you are over 4* out if you used drop brackets, new pivot bushings and the correct springs. Moog are -.75 - +2.75 Iirc, and Jimmy and his crew have never failed to get one back well within spec. (Sometimes not dead nuts on, but always very close. Safe and comfortable) There are other (off road) companies that make ones with more adjustment, but the sleeves get thin at that point. Be aware, that reversing a TTB truck will mess with camber and toe in. So don't back into a space and look at your tires in shock. That last line is a great point, I've done that before and scratched my head saying to myself "did I hit something I don't remember, that looks weird"? Thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnbi Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Right there they wrote themselves out of my book. First, it's hard to believe that you are over 4* out if you used drop brackets, new pivot bushings and the correct springs. Moog are -.75 - +2.75 Iirc, and Jimmy and his crew have never failed to get one back well within spec. (Sometimes not dead nuts on, but always very close. Safe and comfortable) There are other (off road) companies that make ones with more adjustment, but the sleeves get thin at that point. Be aware, that reversing a TTB truck will mess with camber and toe in. So don't back into a space and look at your tires in shock. Thanks for the reply’s I took the truck back home and loosened all the bolts to the springs and U bolts with the weight of the truck on it and it let the springs settle out and drive it around on some bumps . I got a little carried away when I tightened all the bolts with the truck in the air and no weight on the springs and kinda locked it in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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