ArdWrknTrk Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Annnnnd now we understand the term 'sandbagging' at the track. (Or should that be slagbagging? ) It's time for you to get the engine in so you can cut that out. Got a few more pieces for my truck. per Scott's recommendations: A 750 Holley (yes, I know) 165° thermostat. A few sanding mandrels and taper & straight cartridges in 50 grit. A new -scratch and haze free- faceshield. Since I am without a reliable source of air I bought a speed controller. (I already have a couple of variacs and my 1/3 hp Foredom has a foot pedal, but not enough power for iron I think) Wired some lights and outlets in my container. Bought a little 2 stroke generator and right angle die grinder at the tool consignment store Saturday. Ordered some more LED's. Purchased an LRC regulator because of the start squeal of my 3G. Amazon delivered a new Exedy clutch slave cylinder (metal w/ a real bleeder) Very soon I need to get under my truck to replace the drivers floor AGAIN, and do some winter protection with my nasty cosmoline-like mixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 LOL! Yes, that is slag-bagging at its finest. And I do need to get the engine in. But I need a front suspension and transmission in order to easily carry out my plans. The suspension needs several more parts powder coated or painted, and the transmission needs to be ordered. I’m doing the powder work and have gotten sidetracked with the show, this forum and website, a perceived health issue, and now a trailer quest. (Not to mention just enjoying life with my wife.) As for the tranny, I need to commission someone to build an E4OD. Anyone have any recommendations? And the plans are to mate the engine and tranny and install them as a unit into the rolling chassis. To do that w/o damaging the cab I’ll pull the 4 bolts holding the cab on and pick it off the frame with the lift. If I chock the truck so it won’t move while doing the engine/tranny installation the cab should come right back down where it was, or at least close enough to make re-installation easy. But, as I’m thinking about this again, it occurs to me that it might be advantageous to go ahead and raise the lift up into the ceiling as I’ve planned to do for some time. That would give me another 11” of clearance between the engine hoist and the cab. Hmmmmm...... Gary, too bad you are clear out there, I build my own transmissions, and did an E4OD for a local shop that took it in and then found they had no one who could build it. This was a shop in Hampton VA. Biggest thing, is whoever does it needs to install all the updates and be sure the solenoid pack is compatible with the controller you are going to use. Early packs have the surge diodes in them, 1995 and newer they were moved to the PCM. Early works with later PCMs, but late will not work with early PCMs. As long as the controller has the surge diodes, then there is no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 Got a few more pieces for my truck. per Scott's recommendations: A 750 Holley (yes, I know) 165° thermostat. A few sanding mandrels and taper & straight cartridges in 50 grit. A new -scratch and haze free- faceshield. Since I am without a reliable source of air I bought a speed controller. (I already have a couple of variacs and my 1/3 hp Foredom has a foot pedal, but not enough power for iron I think) Wired some lights and outlets in my container. Bought a little 2 stroke generator and right angle die grinder at the tool consignment store Saturday. Ordered some more LED's. Purchased an LRC regulator because of the start squeal of my 3G. Amazon delivered a new Exedy clutch slave cylinder (metal w/ a real bleeder) Very soon I need to get under my truck to replace the drivers floor AGAIN, and do some winter protection with my nasty cosmoline-like mixture. Sounds like just-in-time delivery. And lots of work. I’ll be curious to know your thoughts of the Holley/Eddy comparison. The Foredom is a remote motor with a flexible shaft and foot control? A 1/3 HP unit should work well. But are you going to run the die grinder with the speed controller? I’m confused - but what’s new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 Gary, too bad you are clear out there, I build my own transmissions, and did an E4OD for a local shop that took it in and then found they had no one who could build it. This was a shop in Hampton VA. Biggest thing, is whoever does it needs to install all the updates and be sure the solenoid pack is compatible with the controller you are going to use. Early packs have the surge diodes in them, 1995 and newer they were moved to the PCM. Early works with later PCMs, but late will not work with early PCMs. As long as the controller has the surge diodes, then there is no problem. Bill - Would you build me one? I’m interested, and shipping costs are not a problem. I’m serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Bill - Would you build me one? I’m interested, and shipping costs are not a problem. I’m serious. What did I do to my truck, today? I drove it for the 1st time since my ill fated attempt to attend the 2017 OK GTG. It is nice to be "back in the saddle, again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Bill - Would you build me one? I’m interested, and shipping costs are not a problem. I’m serious. I could, do you have one already or do you need to locate one? I assume it will be for 4WD and it will need a speedometer drive gear and place for a driven one since it will be going in Dad's truck. E4OD needs a speed signal either from a sensor on the speedometer cable (usually at the transmission end) or through the PSOM on the 1992-97 models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I could, do you have one already or do you need to locate one? I assume it will be for 4WD and it will need a speedometer drive gear and place for a driven one since it will be going in Dad's truck. E4OD needs a speed signal either from a sensor on the speedometer cable (usually at the transmission end) or through the PSOM on the 1992-97 models. If 4wd, the "right" 1356 has a cable drive in the output housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 What did I do to my truck, today? I drove it for the 1st time since my ill fated attempt to attend the 2017 OK GTG. It is nice to be "back in the saddle, again!" David - What did you do? How did it run? How did it sound? Bill - Jim is right, it is 4wd and it is a 1356 and it has a speedo hole. I have an electronic adapter that came with the 1356, but I don’t remember anything about it. Will look when I get home - am out buying a trailer. But, I do need a tranny and don’t have a core. Email me about the cost, issues, etc. You know what the engine is, a lot about the truck, etc. And I plan to put a Baumann controller on it, but don’t have that either. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 David - What did you do? How did it run? How did it sound? Maybe I should tell in a separate thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 David - What did you do? How did it run? How did it sound? Bill - Jim is right, it is 4wd and it is a 1356 and it has a speedo hole. I have an electronic adapter that came with the 1356, but I don’t remember anything about it. Will look when I get home - am out buying a trailer. But, I do need a tranny and don’t have a core. Email me about the cost, issues, etc. You know what the engine is, a lot about the truck, etc. And I plan to put a Baumann controller on it, but don’t have that either. Thanks! Ok, you do not have a 460 pattern E4OD of any kind, do you want me to see If I can locate one near me? I know where one is, and tried to talk to the guy about a price, I don't think it's a 4WD version, but during a full rebuild the output shaft can be changed. If you are looking it will need provision for the speedometer drive, even if it is plugged right now, as for price, some of it will be based on what year we start with and what updates are needed. Labor, figure @ $75/hr $800.00 Looking at parts prices, it will be cheaper if you can find a 4WD one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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