Rembrant Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 I've got the NAPA/Echlin TP-40 box in 'Lil Red. I know it retards. Well, to throw a wrench into things, it was actually hard starting cold today. Past couple times was only when it was hot, but first start of the day today acted up as well. I'll try the original DSII box. That's easy. I'll dial the timing back after that. Finally, I do have a spare (junkyard) PMGR starter (Reman) I could swap in and try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Well, to throw a wrench into things, it was actually hard starting cold today. Past couple times was only when it was hot, but first start of the day today acted up as well. I'll try the original DSII box. That's easy. I'll dial the timing back after that. Finally, I do have a spare (junkyard) PMGR starter (Reman) I could swap in and try. Any chance you have a bad cable or bad ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Any chance you have a bad cable or bad ground? Well they shouldn’t be bad Gary I installed all new cables and all new grounds. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem, but I hadn’t even thought of them. I’m going to try a few things this week since it looks like I’m going to be working from home for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Any chance you have a bad cable or bad ground? Well they shouldn’t be bad Gary I installed all new cables and all new grounds. Doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem, but I hadn’t even thought of them. I’m going to try a few things this week since it looks like I’m going to be working from home for a while. Cory, my engine is different, but it's recurved distributor is set @ 16 degrees BTDC. Before resetting the timing, when the engine resists starting [I assume you mean slow cranking speed], pull the ignition coil wire and then try to crank. If, suddenly, the engine spins faster [normal], then the issue is with the timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted March 16, 2020 Author Share Posted March 16, 2020 Cory, my engine is different, but it's recurved distributor is set @ 16 degrees BTDC. Before resetting the timing, when the engine resists starting [I assume you mean slow cranking speed], pull the ignition coil wire and then try to crank. If, suddenly, the engine spins faster [normal], then the issue is with the timing. Great tip David, thanks. I will do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Cory, my engine is different, but it's recurved distributor is set @ 16 degrees BTDC. Before resetting the timing, when the engine resists starting [I assume you mean slow cranking speed], pull the ignition coil wire and then try to crank. If, suddenly, the engine spins faster [normal], then the issue is with the timing. Great tip David, thanks. I will do just that. I love the seasoned and well reasoned advice found on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I love the seasoned and well reasoned advice found on this forum! Amen, brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford F834 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Cory, my engine is different, but it's recurved distributor is set @ 16 degrees BTDC. Before resetting the timing, when the engine resists starting [I assume you mean slow cranking speed], pull the ignition coil wire and then try to crank. If, suddenly, the engine spins faster [normal], then the issue is with the timing. Gold post right there... 🥇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rembrant Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Cory, my engine is different, but it's recurved distributor is set @ 16 degrees BTDC. Before resetting the timing, when the engine resists starting [I assume you mean slow cranking speed], pull the ignition coil wire and then try to crank. If, suddenly, the engine spins faster [normal], then the issue is with the timing. So I haven't really had any time this week to work on the truck...but I did take it for a quick drive yesterday, and planned to do the coil wire test. The darn thing started just fine hot 2 out of 3 times, and the one time it did crank kind of slow it did start relatively quick, so I didn't do the test. So my question is now, if it is timing related, would the issue be present all the time? Or could it be intermittent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1986F150Six Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 So I haven't really had any time this week to work on the truck...but I did take it for a quick drive yesterday, and planned to do the coil wire test. The darn thing started just fine hot 2 out of 3 times, and the one time it did crank kind of slow it did start relatively quick, so I didn't do the test. So my question is now, if it is timing related, would the issue be present all the time? Or could it be intermittent? I would think it is dependent on temperature [near the starter] or battery health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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