ArdWrknTrk Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Thanks guys. And if I were to be so new to this adventure that I didn't know what a "cowl" was...could you point me in the right direction? No air conditioning on my truck, and I definitely need to replace that seal in the engine compartment that I've seen folks talk about here before. Glad that there are instructions already for me to use! Looks like an order of POR15 might need to come my way. Thanks Matthew for pointing me to your thread! One other spot I haven't seen mentioned is the rain gutters, and the seam between them and both the windshield and rear window. If the caulk is dried out and cracked (it usually is) water will run down the A or B pillars and collect on the floor in that corner. Good luck! I'm sure you'll find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDav782 Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 One other spot I haven't seen mentioned is the rain gutters, and the seam between them and both the windshield and rear window. If the caulk is dried out and cracked (it usually is) water will run down the A or B pillars and collect on the floor in that corner. Good luck! I'm sure you'll find it. This is all fantastic information, thanks so much! One last thought: I anticipate asking MANY questions as I keep getting to know this truck, and trying to tackle some of the issues. Would the group prefer I do a single thread and ask all of my questions there (kind of like a build thread), or have individual threads like this one, for specific issues/questions? I don't think it matters to me, but it might matter to all of you. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 This is all fantastic information, thanks so much! One last thought: I anticipate asking MANY questions as I keep getting to know this truck, and trying to tackle some of the issues. Would the group prefer I do a single thread and ask all of my questions there (kind of like a build thread), or have individual threads like this one, for specific issues/questions? I don't think it matters to me, but it might matter to all of you. Dave Doesn't matter to me, but let's see what the others say. Sometimes new threads get more attention. But then a thread on your truck keeps it all together. So I think it is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 This is all fantastic information, thanks so much! One last thought: I anticipate asking MANY questions as I keep getting to know this truck, and trying to tackle some of the issues. Would the group prefer I do a single thread and ask all of my questions there (kind of like a build thread), or have individual threads like this one, for specific issues/questions? I don't think it matters to me, but it might matter to all of you. Dave Look at what Matthew does. He has an ongoing project thread, and then starts a separate thread for each 'task' that might need a deep dive for information or documentation. So, Why Not Both ????? (I can't find the little girl meme) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Lewis Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Look at what Matthew does. He has an ongoing project thread, and then starts a separate thread for each 'task' that might need a deep dive for information or documentation. So, Why Not Both ????? (I can't find the little girl meme) Kind of like I've done with Big Blue's Transformation and the Sky's Offroad Design Super Duty RSK Install thread. Both are about the same truck, but the Sky thread will have the details on that aspect, although it will also be mentioned in the Transformation thread. No right or wrong. Just preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebcak Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I had a similar issue and mine was the seal on the passenger back window at the top. It ran down the back wall behind the seat and puddle under the dash. Thought it was the heater core, leaking from the windshield or cowl. Good luck on finding it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDav782 Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 Should I save the rubber floor? It's in good condition...Absolutely. If not for yourself, for someone else. But you won't find anything that fits or works as well, even if you spend $500....with a wet pad that is also glued to the underside, it seems like a lot of trouble to use it again in the futureNot really - it's just water. If it was motor oil, or blood - yeah, burn it....do I remove the pad or just let it dry out?Lay it wet-side up in the sun; preferably with a steady stream of air moving over it....any recommendations on what to use instead? I don't need fancy, just protection from salt and water from my boots in the winterRegardless of the visible floor covering, adding a layer or 3 of foil-faced mastic (like DynaMat or Peel&Seal) will make the truck quieter & more-comfortable. https://supermotors.net/getfile/925264/thumbnail/133pnsf.jpgAny thoughts on where the water came from? Obviously the sky...Not necessarily. It could be splash from the front tires, or coolant leaking from the heater core, or (if the truck had A/C) condensate. Depending on recent weather, it could also simply have been tracked in on your shoes & clothing (including an umbrella)....where I should focus on for sealing things up?All the holes in the firewall & cowl, particularly on the passenger side (since you didn't post any pics of water on the driver's side). Pay attention to the heater core penetrations and the air ducts. https://supermotors.net/getfile/980115/thumbnail/34rainguides.jpg https://supermotors.net/getfile/1152777/thumbnail/rightrainleak.jpg The windshield sealant (of course - those black drips on the floor are from someone attempting to re-seal a badly-installed w/s). The galvanized plugs in the footwells for the body bolts (they can be replaced with the later plastic/rubber plugs from '87-96 trucks). The rain gutters above the doors, and the short seams between them & the windshield. Any holes in the roof (clearance lights, antennae, etc.). There are also drains at the bottoms of the A- & B-pillars, visible from below. They probably have rubber plugs (which may be hardened/cracked/displaced). On later trucks, they're factory-sealed with foam rubber adhesive & thin steel plates. Inspect the wiring under the driver's threshold carefully - the water will corrode it into green slime....what a "cowl" was...could you point me in the right direction? Ford uses that term generally to refer to the roughly-rounded sections of sheet metal that surround the roughly-vertical firewall: the channel containing the wiper linkage, and the forward areas of the lower A-pillars where the cowl drains are. https://supermotors.net/getfile/901904/thumbnail/cowldrainpacked.jpg https://supermotors.net/getfile/955476/thumbnail/22screeq.jpg Speaking of the galvanized plugs in the footwells for the body bolts - could I ask for some help on sourcing the replacement versions from the newer trucks? Couldn't find anything in a cursory search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramttocs Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Speaking of the galvanized plugs in the footwells for the body bolts - could I ask for some help on sourcing the replacement versions from the newer trucks? Couldn't find anything in a cursory search. I don't speak from any experience in swapping to the later style but I assume it's one of the bottom two options labeled under #13 here: http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fd/full.aspx?Page=34 Not at home to measure exactly which one right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85lebaront2 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Speaking of the galvanized plugs in the footwells for the body bolts - could I ask for some help on sourcing the replacement versions from the newer trucks? Couldn't find anything in a cursory search. They do fit perfectly. The ones in Darth came from the 1996 F350, I had the old ones off to remove the front cab bolts to play musical transmission mount bolts. The 4 upper ones will not come out with the cab in place, but the crew cab being 35" longer, there is enough slack with the front ones out to raise the cab the roughly 3/4" needed to remove the bolts and relocate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 ...the replacement versions from the newer trucks? Couldn't find anything in a cursory search.The engineering number is E97B-10111A74-AA, apparently replaced by EN F7LB6111A74AA, which seems to be PN F7LZ63111A74AA. The ones from the trunk of my '94 CV are the same as those from every '92-96 Bronco I've taken apart, so they're used on several Ford/L/M products of that era, and they should be common in JYs. This says MSRP is <$6: https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/cover-plate-7858809-1 But these say <$4ea new: https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-hole-cover-f7lz63111a74aa https://www.fordpartsgiant.com/parts/ford-cover-plate_f7lz-63111a74-aa.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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