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[ArdWrknTrk]

Dual 12 gallon tanks?

What are you seeing other than "omitted, omitted" in the description?

Oh, sorry...I was poking fun at the fact the truck has both the lower chrome moldings, and the wheel arch chrome moldings. They are two separate trim packages and I don't believe were ever available together, although Gary can correct me if I'm wrong. It's like adding chrome trim on top of chrome trim if you get my drift? My preference is for plain bodied trucks, so the trim really stands out to me.

Well the 12 gallon tanks account for the 2x7 gallons of meth the "owner" has obviously been smoking.

Yeah, I have a 'Custom', so I don't know anything about XLT trim in 1984.

I DID just stumble upon this

And while it's not a Bullnose, it sure is pristine..

[grumpin]

Well the 12 gallon tanks account for the 2x7 gallons of meth the "owner" has obviously been smoking.

Yeah, I have a 'Custom', so I don't know anything about XLT trim in 1984.

I DID just stumble upon this

And while it's not a Bullnose, it sure is pristine..

Yeah, trim over trim

That’s a nice Powerstroke, amazing what they go for!

[Rembrant]

Don't forget Ford freaks that the Bullitt Mustang is up for auction later this week!

https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0120-397388/1968-ford-mustang-gt-bullitt/

Snagged this photo from the local FB Classic Car groups. One of the members is at the auction.

http://forum.garysgaragemahal.com/file/n47219/81179340_10157126197938681_1179763705882083328_o.jpg

Did you guys happen to catch how much the Bullitt Mustang sold for?

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/bullitt-mustang-sells-record-374-million-auction-florida/EV2D4DKMCFGMBOLSTVNAGOHENI/

[salans7]

I DID just stumble upon this

And while it's not a Bullnose, it sure is pristine..

They're nuts if they think that truck is in high demand. There are only two aeronose trucks that are in high demand. Regular Cab F350 4x4 w/Flowerstroke, and Crew Cab F350 4x4 w/Flowerstroke. Everything else is worth significantly less, even if people try to sell them for more. This includes any extended cab, all F250 4x4's (because of TTB), etc.

Because Flowerstroke 4x4 F350's are so expensive these days, you're starting to see people swap either 86-97 D60's or Super Duty axles into F250's. And anybody who can't even afford an F250 Flowerstroke 4x4 is SD axle swapping 4x2's. The problem with that is everybody who does this, thinks their truck is now worth F350 Flowerstroke 4x4 money, and that's just not the case. It's like buying an original 69-70 Charger Daytona versus buying a 68 Charger with a reproduction wing and nose. At the end of the day, the rear window is still wrong, it's still a 68, and it will never be worth as much as the real deal.

Buy hey, as long as somebody is du...(less than educated) enough to pay it, people will keep trying to sell at those prices.

[ArdWrknTrk]

I DID just stumble upon this

And while it's not a Bullnose, it sure is pristine..

They're nuts if they think that truck is in high demand. There are only two aeronose trucks that are in high demand. Regular Cab F350 4x4 w/Flowerstroke, and Crew Cab F350 4x4 w/Flowerstroke. Everything else is worth significantly less, even if people try to sell them for more. This includes any extended cab, all F250 4x4's (because of TTB), etc.

Because Flowerstroke 4x4 F350's are so expensive these days, you're starting to see people swap either 86-97 D60's or Super Duty axles into F250's. And anybody who can't even afford an F250 Flowerstroke 4x4 is SD axle swapping 4x2's. The problem with that is everybody who does this, thinks their truck is now worth F350 Flowerstroke 4x4 money, and that's just not the case. It's like buying an original 69-70 Charger Daytona versus buying a 68 Charger with a reproduction wing and nose. At the end of the day, the rear window is still wrong, it's still a 68, and it will never be worth as much as the real deal.

Buy hey, as long as somebody is du...(less than educated) enough to pay it, people will keep trying to sell at those prices.

I'm certainly in agreement Shaun!

That's the point I was trying to make.

A 250 is not a 350 and never will be.

And even though it is really clean, it's still a super cab 250.

The 7.3 is easy to make power, and doesn't have the access and head lifting problems of the 6.blow.

If it was a regular cab 350 the price would be in the ballpark.

Though like Ray, I want a truck to work it, not something I'm afraid to scratch.

[Gary Lewis]

I'm certainly in agreement Shaun!

That's the point I was trying to make.

A 250 is not a 350 and never will be.

And even though it is really clean, it's still a super cab 250.

The 7.3 is easy to make power, and doesn't have the access and head lifting problems of the 6.blow.

If it was a regular cab 350 the price would be in the ballpark.

Though like Ray, I want a truck to work it, not something I'm afraid to scratch.

You guys do realize that there's very little difference between an F250HD and an F350 if you change the front axle. Right?

Take a look at the frame spec's, below. As for rear springs, Big Blue has the exact same springs as Darth.

And look at the rear axles - belower. It frequently says F250/350.

So, what is the difference, other than the front axle? I seek to understand.

[ArdWrknTrk]

You guys do realize that there's very little difference between an F250HD and an F350 if you change the front axle. Right?

Take a look at the frame spec's, below. As for rear springs, Big Blue has the exact same springs as Darth.

And look at the rear axles - belower. It frequently says F250/350.

So, what is the difference, other than the front axle? I seek to understand.

The transfer case yoke, front drive shaft, pitman arm, panhard bar and mount, springs, sway bars, hubs,

Where does the list end???

Who wants to $#&@* with all this, just to get the truck it should have been?

It's not worth it to most of us.

[Gary Lewis]

The transfer case yoke, front drive shaft, pitman arm, panhard bar and mount, springs, sway bars, hubs,

Where does the list end???

Who wants to $#&@* with all this, just to get the truck it should have been?

It's not worth it to most of us.

True, the driveshaft(s) are different. I forgot that. Double-cardan up front. But, the pitman arm, panhard bar and mount, sway bar, hubs, springs, etc should be part of a D60 installation. In fact, the front driveshaft should be as well.

So, effectively Big Blue will be an F350 when I'm done.

[Nothing Special]

The transfer case yoke, front drive shaft, pitman arm, panhard bar and mount, springs, sway bars, hubs,

Where does the list end???

Who wants to $#&@* with all this, just to get the truck it should have been?

It's not worth it to most of us.

That list is pretty much complete. And given that it's only missing one thing (the lift blocks between the rear springs and rear axle) and has an extra thing (F-250HD and F-350 use the same hubs, at least if it's an F-250 HD with a Dana 50) arguably it had already ended! Oh, I guess you need the longer U-bolts for the taller lift blocks too. And the "F-350" badges for the fenders, but you don't really need those. But otherwise, the parts list is the same.

As far as who wants to (expletive deleted) with all of that, it's all bolt-on stuff, and it's a whale of a lot less than what most of us do on our project trucks anyway.

And in a lot of cases you can't buy just what you want. Before the '99 SuperDuties there were no F-350 SuperCabs except for dualies (and maybe only 2WD, I'm not sure of that). And there were no short box F-350s. Yes long boxes are better if you need more room. But for carrying a family and towing a big trailer a crew cab short box is hard to beat. And a short box SuperCab is a really nice package for a lot of use as well, but was only available in F-250 (and F-150 of course).

Plus when you are looking at 22+ year old trucks, a lot of the time you have to take what you can find. Even if you are looking for a long box regular cab you might find a rust-free F-250HD before you find a good F-350.

Now personally I kind of like the leaf-sprung TTB and I have no plans to do a solid axle swap on my truck ('97 crew cab short bed). It rides WAY better than the '85 F-250HD I had, and can't be much worse than an F-350 (likely not significant). And I really don't want the ~2" lift that a Dana 60 swap provides (my wife and my 86 year old dad have enough trouble getting in it now). But there are good arguments for a Dana 60 swap, so if someone found the right F-250, it's not that hard to find a clapped out F-350 to provide the rest of the parts needed if you want that F-250 to have a solid axle.

 

[Gary Lewis]

The transfer case yoke, front drive shaft, pitman arm, panhard bar and mount, springs, sway bars, hubs,

Where does the list end???

Who wants to $#&@* with all this, just to get the truck it should have been?

It's not worth it to most of us.

That list is pretty much complete. And given that it's only missing one thing (the lift blocks between the rear springs and rear axle) and has an extra thing (F-250HD and F-350 use the same hubs, at least if it's an F-250 HD with a Dana 50) arguably it had already ended! Oh, I guess you need the longer U-bolts for the taller lift blocks too. And the "F-350" badges for the fenders, but you don't really need those. But otherwise, the parts list is the same.

As far as who wants to (expletive deleted) with all of that, it's all bolt-on stuff, and it's a whale of a lot less than what most of us do on our project trucks anyway.

And in a lot of cases you can't buy just what you want. Before the '99 SuperDuties there were no F-350 SuperCabs except for dualies (and maybe only 2WD, I'm not sure of that). And there were no short box F-350s. Yes long boxes are better if you need more room. But for carrying a family and towing a big trailer a crew cab short box is hard to beat. And a short box SuperCab is a really nice package for a lot of use as well, but was only available in F-250 (and F-150 of course).

Plus when you are looking at 22+ year old trucks, a lot of the time you have to take what you can find. Even if you are looking for a long box regular cab you might find a rust-free F-250HD before you find a good F-350.

Now personally I kind of like the leaf-sprung TTB and I have no plans to do a solid axle swap on my truck ('97 crew cab short bed). It rides WAY better than the '85 F-250HD I had, and can't be much worse than an F-350 (likely not significant). And I really don't want the ~2" lift that a Dana 60 swap provides (my wife and my 86 year old dad have enough trouble getting in it now). But there are good arguments for a Dana 60 swap, so if someone found the right F-250, it's not that hard to find a clapped out F-350 to provide the rest of the parts needed if you want that F-250 to have a solid axle.

Well said, Bob.

But I was holding my breath when you got into the TTB vs D60. I was sure glad you said that your '97 "rides WAY better than the '85 F-250HD".