The FORD Lounge

[ArdWrknTrk]

Early Body, not Eddie Bauer.

I think that's the first time I've heard "EB" mean "Early Body." I've heard "EB" mean "Early Bronco" (so Broncos (Bronci?) like mine are either "early Broncos" or "EBs" rather than "EB Broncos"). And I've heard it mean "Eddie Bauer" and "Eco-Boost". So in general I'm not a fan of using the initialism "EB" because everyone knows what it means, but we don't all agree.

What is your opinion of the Bronco II?

Bronco, or not Bronco?

You asked for my opinion. Keeping in mind that opinions are like that part of the anatomy that everyone has and it stinks...

To me the early Bronco is the only real Bronco. The Full Size Bronco is a great vehicle, but in my opinion it's not an evolutionary change from the Bronco that preceded it. It's simply an entirely new and different vehicle with the same name. It's sorta like the 1977 - 1989 Honda Odyssey and the 1994 - present Honda Odyssey.

The Bronco II again was a completely different vehicle (from either the early Bronco or the Full Size Bronco) with the same (almost) name. So again, in my opinion it isn't "really" a Bronco. Not saying it isn't a good vehicle. But it's more an Explorer prequel than it is a Bronco sequel.

Having said that, another option is that Ford quit using the name "Bronco" to refer to a vehicle and instead is using it as a brand. Like the "Wrangler" name for Goodyear or the "Cutlass" name for Oldsmobile. In both of those cases the company started with a single product, then added so many variants (all with their own subtitles) that it sort of just became a sub-brand. My opinion again, I'm not a fan of that. It takes a name that had an identity and waters it down. But it's not my job to make money for Ford, so they get to do what they want. And again, I think this will make money for them.

Well, I'm in agreement with you there.

Actually kind of surprised Ford didn't use the Ranchero name for whatever that mid-sized thing was they called a SportTrac with half a bed.

We haven't seen a Torino in a long time.

When are they going to resurrect that one?

 

[Nothing Special]

Early Body, not Eddie Bauer.

I think that's the first time I've heard "EB" mean "Early Body." I've heard "EB" mean "Early Bronco" (so Broncos (Bronci?) like mine are either "early Broncos" or "EBs" rather than "EB Broncos"). And I've heard it mean "Eddie Bauer" and "Eco-Boost". So in general I'm not a fan of using the initialism "EB" because everyone knows what it means, but we don't all agree.

What is your opinion of the Bronco II?

Bronco, or not Bronco?

You asked for my opinion. Keeping in mind that opinions are like that part of the anatomy that everyone has and it stinks...

To me the early Bronco is the only real Bronco. The Full Size Bronco is a great vehicle, but in my opinion it's not an evolutionary change from the Bronco that preceded it. It's simply an entirely new and different vehicle with the same name. It's sorta like the 1977 - 1989 Honda Odyssey and the 1994 - present Honda Odyssey.

The Bronco II again was a completely different vehicle (from either the early Bronco or the Full Size Bronco) with the same (almost) name. So again, in my opinion it isn't "really" a Bronco. Not saying it isn't a good vehicle. But it's more an Explorer prequel than it is a Bronco sequel.

Having said that, another option is that Ford quit using the name "Bronco" to refer to a vehicle and instead is using it as a brand. Like the "Wrangler" name for Goodyear or the "Cutlass" name for Oldsmobile. In both of those cases the company started with a single product, then added so many variants (all with their own subtitles) that it sort of just became a sub-brand. My opinion again, I'm not a fan of that. It takes a name that had an identity and waters it down. But it's not my job to make money for Ford, so they get to do what they want. And again, I think this will make money for them.

... as far as whether the new Bronco is a real Bronco or not (only my opinion again)...

We'll have to see how things play out, but based on what I've seen in the release hoopla I'm of the opinion that it is. Again, my criterion is whether it's an evolutionary change from the original. Given that there's a gap of 44 years between the last real Bronco (in my opinion) and now there's obviously no evolutionary record to point to. But the way I've worded it above is that it looks like a modern interpretation of the early Bronco. So it's easy to imagine that if Ford had been making Broncos for the past 43 years that were all evolutionary changes from the original, that the 2021 Bronco could be an imaginary evolutionary change from the imaginary 2020 Bronco.

But we'll see. I know that right now my younger son is a lot more interested in it than the Wrangler he was planning on getting in a couple of years!

[Gary Lewis]

... as far as whether the new Bronco is a real Bronco or not (only my opinion again)...

We'll have to see how things play out, but based on what I've seen in the release hoopla I'm of the opinion that it is. Again, my criterion is whether it's an evolutionary change from the original. Given that there's a gap of 44 years between the last real Bronco (in my opinion) and now there's obviously no evolutionary record to point to. But the way I've worded it above is that it looks like a modern interpretation of the early Bronco. So it's easy to imagine that if Ford had been making Broncos for the past 43 years that were all evolutionary changes from the original, that the 2021 Bronco could be an imaginary evolutionary change from the imaginary 2020 Bronco.

But we'll see. I know that right now my younger son is a lot more interested in it than the Wrangler he was planning on getting in a couple of years!

And my son is interested in the new Bronco. Which is saying a LOT as he's shown no interest in any Ford product heretofore. But he wants one, badly. And he knows more about them than I do, and I've been reading about them.

So it looks to me like Ford hit a home run - assuming that the vehicle lives up to the advertising.

[85lebaront2]

And my son is interested in the new Bronco. Which is saying a LOT as he's shown no interest in any Ford product heretofore. But he wants one, badly. And he knows more about them than I do, and I've been reading about them.

So it looks to me like Ford hit a home run - assuming that the vehicle lives up to the advertising.

Since he has a thirsty Subaru that may destroy it's engine, it's probably not a bad idea. That will serve them well if they go back to Central America.

[Gary Lewis]

Since he has a thirsty Subaru that may destroy it's engine, it's probably not a bad idea. That will serve them well if they go back to Central America.

Actually it is the son that wants a Bronco and the daughter that has the Subie.

As for taking a Bronco to Central America, and Nicaragua specifically, that might work. There are very few Ford or any other American vehicles there as the US pulled out in the 80's. But in recent years a Ford dealership was opened in Managua and I've seen a few, but very few, new Fords there.

However, I don't know how long that dealership will survive. I say that because there was significant unrest in the country just over two years ago that significantly curtailed the economic expansion that was just getting started. And from what little is getting out about it the pandemic is running rampant down there at present. So the struggling economy is going to be even worse.

[Rembrant]

Actually it is the son that wants a Bronco and the daughter that has the Subie.

As for taking a Bronco to Central America, and Nicaragua specifically, that might work. There are very few Ford or any other American vehicles there as the US pulled out in the 80's. But in recent years a Ford dealership was opened in Managua and I've seen a few, but very few, new Fords there.

However, I don't know how long that dealership will survive. I say that because there was significant unrest in the country just over two years ago that significantly curtailed the economic expansion that was just getting started. And from what little is getting out about it the pandemic is running rampant down there at present. So the struggling economy is going to be even worse.

With the tires and winch combo, clearly this truck is a heavy duty offroad machine, right?...lol.

[Gary Lewis]

With the tires and winch combo, clearly this truck is a heavy duty offroad machine, right?...lol.

Yes, those tires are perfect. With little sidewall the wheels will be bent easily. And when you air those tires down they'll come right off the beads.

I think the winch is 'cause he knows he's going to need it - maybe in his own driveway?

[salans7]

Yes, those tires are perfect. With little sidewall the wheels will be bent easily. And when you air those tires down they'll come right off the beads.

I think the winch is 'cause he knows he's going to need it - maybe in his own driveway?

Came across something interesting in my 2002 Ranger the other day. Upon removing the carpet for deep cleaning, I stumbled across a vin tag laying on the bare floor. It had obviously been removed, and upon further inspection, was not the same vin number as my truck. My heart instantly sunk, knowing that my great uncle may have bought a five year old truck with a bad history, and now I was the owner of a truck with a bad history. But after verifying the vin plate attached to the dash, the rivets holding it on, the partial vin on the frame and engine, and the certification label, I determined the vin plate I found was not from my truck. After decoding this mysterious vin tag, I came to the conclusion that it belonged to an almost identical truck to mine, that was scheduled to be built around 60 trucks after mine, and that somebody at the factory in Edison must have put the wrong vin plate on my truck, and for some reason after it was drilled out and removed, it was thrown onto the floor, and the cab went down the line.

I also had an issue on my old F150 where the vin stamped on the frame was one digit off from the truck's actual vin, so instead of reading RHD0580, it read RHB0580.

[grumpin]

Came across something interesting in my 2002 Ranger the other day. Upon removing the carpet for deep cleaning, I stumbled across a vin tag laying on the bare floor. It had obviously been removed, and upon further inspection, was not the same vin number as my truck. My heart instantly sunk, knowing that my great uncle may have bought a five year old truck with a bad history, and now I was the owner of a truck with a bad history. But after verifying the vin plate attached to the dash, the rivets holding it on, the partial vin on the frame and engine, and the certification label, I determined the vin plate I found was not from my truck. After decoding this mysterious vin tag, I came to the conclusion that it belonged to an almost identical truck to mine, that was scheduled to be built around 60 trucks after mine, and that somebody at the factory in Edison must have put the wrong vin plate on my truck, and for some reason after it was drilled out and removed, it was thrown onto the floor, and the cab went down the line.

I also had an issue on my old F150 where the vin stamped on the frame was one digit off from the truck's actual vin, so instead of reading RHD0580, it read RHB0580.

Glad that worked out!

I got that feeling after we bought my son a car. The plates didn’t match the title or the registration. He had veterans disabled plates which do not stay on the car.

But the current plates should have matched the registration. I told the lady at the DMV and she asked what plates are on it. She processed it, so it was apparently an old registration. Whew!

[salans7]

Glad that worked out!

I got that feeling after we bought my son a car. The plates didn’t match the title or the registration. He had veterans disabled plates which do not stay on the car.

But the current plates should have matched the registration. I told the lady at the DMV and she asked what plates are on it. She processed it, so it was apparently an old registration. Whew!

That's definitely cause for concern!