ArdWrknTrk Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 The whole project has come to a screeching hault… What to do... Ron, let me ask you, do you have enough setback to shift the whole garage? Have you or any of your contractors considered pouring a new foundation and stem walls, ( with enough extra for your addition) moving the structure over? Then demo the slab, and build your extension? It would be much easier than trying to get that crap out, placing forms and settng a bunch of concrete under a building perched above. Heck, you could even leave the old slab as an apron if you met the LAC minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Cecil Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 The whole project has come to a screeching hault… What to do... Ron, let me ask you, do you have enough setback to shift the whole garage? Have you or any of your contractors considered pouring a new foundation and stem walls, ( with enough extra for your addition) moving the structure over? Then demo the slab, and build your extension? It would be much easier than trying to get that crap out, placing forms and settng a bunch of concrete under a building perched above. Is Reamer's name Ray too, or is Jim confused about who is who? I might be confused myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Is Reamer's name Ray too, or is Jim confused about who is who? I might be confused myself. "Ron" , sorry it's fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Cecil Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 "Ron" , sorry it's fixed. O I C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reamer Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 The whole project has come to a screeching hault… What to do... Ron, let me ask you, do you have enough setback to shift the whole garage? Have you or any of your contractors considered pouring a new foundation and stem walls, ( with enough extra for your addition) moving the structure over? Then demo the slab, and build your extension? It would be much easier than trying to get that crap out, placing forms and settng a bunch of concrete under a building perched above. Ive been getting estimates for 1. lifting and repair, 2. Metal buildings, 3.Pole Barns and 4.Stick framing, and as figured, Scrapping (re-purposing) what is there and starting new seems to be the way to go. But even going this way, New 38x38 1 story 3-bay garage is still hitting 45 -55K Without concrete floor! With the building official retiring in less 40 days, we don't know who well get, a hard ass, a snot-nosed newbie going by the book, of a cooperative-person that understands the situation.... So far it looks like I have to break out the framing and the roofing nailer and do this myself... Not what I was planning on, but with 20+k of the cost just in labor...….. Which brings up another curve ball, the Wife-ee, We can do something quite functional to hold down this unexpected cost, and she's holding the purse-strings on this, yet in the same breath, She wants: A salt box style roof and copula. New insulated doors bay doors with windows. Roof overhang on all sides Updated lighting and a 4th baydoor on the backside. Nothing like being told "keep the cost down, but I want"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Ive been getting estimates for 1. lifting and repair, 2. Metal buildings, 3.Pole Barns and 4.Stick framing, and as figured, Scrapping (re-purposing) what is there and starting new seems to be the way to go. But even going this way, New 38x38 1 story 3-bay garage is still hitting 45 -55K Without concrete floor! With the building official retiring in less 40 days, we don't know who well get, a hard ass, a snot-nosed newbie going by the book, of a cooperative-person that understands the situation.... So far it looks like I have to break out the framing and the roofing nailer and do this myself... Not what I was planning on, but with 20+k of the cost just in labor...….. Which brings up another curve ball, the Wife-ee, We can do something quite functional to hold down this unexpected cost, and she's holding the purse-strings on this, yet in the same breath, She wants: A salt box style roof and copula. New insulated doors bay doors with windows. Roof overhang on all sides Updated lighting and a 4th baydoor on the backside. Nothing like being told "keep the cost down, but I want"..... Yup "It's perfect! BUT.......". Ron, do you know any of the guys in the FTE CT Chapter? Ray Gagnon is a electrical contractor and has a ditchwitch. Others are in the trades. Have you considered a barn raising? I have tools for two (at least!) You'd have to have the slab in place, and the mudsills would be good too, but with a solid plan and enough food and caffeine to keep them going even a motley crew can get a lot done. (I volunteer for H4H and Christmas in April) so I've seen it work. Speak to your inspector. Have them brief their replacement. It's not like one goes home on Friday and another shows up Monday morning. I've bumped heads with a lot of *$#@&'+(?'s but most will work with you when they know what you face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Ive been getting estimates for 1. lifting and repair, 2. Metal buildings, 3.Pole Barns and 4.Stick framing, and as figured, Scrapping (re-purposing) what is there and starting new seems to be the way to go. But even going this way, New 38x38 1 story 3-bay garage is still hitting 45 -55K Without concrete floor! With the building official retiring in less 40 days, we don't know who well get, a hard ass, a snot-nosed newbie going by the book, of a cooperative-person that understands the situation.... So far it looks like I have to break out the framing and the roofing nailer and do this myself... Not what I was planning on, but with 20+k of the cost just in labor...….. Which brings up another curve ball, the Wife-ee, We can do something quite functional to hold down this unexpected cost, and she's holding the purse-strings on this, yet in the same breath, She wants: A salt box style roof and copula. New insulated doors bay doors with windows. Roof overhang on all sides Updated lighting and a 4th baydoor on the backside. Nothing like being told "keep the cost down, but I want"..... Ron, I was reading a little more about your predicament up there in the north east corner today. Seems like the CFSIC is running out of $, and will stop taking applications when they hit a hard ceiling of $121.6M. (they're at 101M right now) JJ Mottes Concrete in Stafford is DONE and the quarry in Willington is no longer supplying aggregate for concrete. Did you consider building adjacent to the existing slab? Do you even have the room? There would be a lot less site disruption if you didn't have to rip it all out and then truck in fill. At the least you could do it on your own schedule once the existing structure is moved or gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 This is going to end up a Fed-funded issue, This is getting way-to big. Many of the town's tax bases are quickly eroding, a 400,000 dollar house is now being assessed at 80-100grand, times thousands of houses = catastrophe. I don't see the precedent. The Federal Government has no authority nor any mandate. In point of fact it would be unconstitutional at the Federal level. (even if our current administration was inclined to make handouts to those affected) This is not a natural disaster like a flood or volcano. This is not an environmental disaster like a Superfund site. This has nothing to do with interstate commerce. (except for any persons in Massachusetts or Rhode Island that may have gotten a bad load) The Fed's could offer a low interest loan. The State could raise a bond, if somehow this could be construed as in the public interest. But short of the Feds taking the companies that caused this mess, under RICO or something, there is technically nothing they can do. And those companies don't have any assets or real holdings that could be liquidated and disbursed by the Attorneys General to make it right for those affected. Plus, there's a lot of backlash in this State about the government stepping in on any property issue with landowners, after the whole Kelo -imminent domain- fiasco in New London. (which is STILL a brownfield, unfortunately) For now $121M is it..... and it's all spoken for at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve83 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 This is going to end up a Fed-funded issue, This is getting way-to big. Many of the town's tax bases are quickly eroding, a 400,000 dollar house is now being assessed at 80-100grand, times thousands of houses = catastrophe. I don't see the precedent. The Federal Government has no authority nor any mandate. In point of fact it would be unconstitutional at the Federal level. (even if our current administration was inclined to make handouts to those affected) This is not a natural disaster like a flood or volcano. This is not an environmental disaster like a Superfund site. This has nothing to do with interstate commerce. (except for any persons in Massachusetts or Rhode Island that may have gotten a bad load) The Fed's could offer a low interest loan. The State could raise a bond, if somehow this could be construed as in the public interest. But short of the Feds taking the companies that caused this mess, under RICO or something, there is technically nothing they can do. And those companies don't have any assets or real holdings that could be liquidated and disbursed by the Attorneys General to make it right for those affected. Plus, there's a lot of backlash in this State about the government stepping in on any property issue with landowners, after the whole Kelo -imminent domain- fiasco in New London. (which is STILL a brownfield, unfortunately) For now $121M is it..... and it's all spoken for at this point. ...and we all know the feds never do anything unconstitutional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArdWrknTrk Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 ...and we all know the feds never do anything unconstitutional. Gary asked us not to delve into politics, so I'm not going to let you get me on a tear. I could say a lot.... But I would rather that the government sworn to uphold the Constitution, would actually do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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